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davedave
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CV joint removal Sun, 16 January 2005 11:44 Go to next message
Hi everyone,

Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a CV joint off (and back on again). I've heard the only way is with a big hammer, but I'm not quite sure what I'm removing.

I'm trying to make a hybrid of a couple of driveshafts using one outer CV with another assembly

Here's a pic of what I'm looking at, where should I be hitting? Smiley =

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~mk15/images/IMGP1238_800.jpg

Cheers,
Dave
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Re: CV joint removal Sun, 16 January 2005 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i've pulled the other end (inner) off a few times, it's held on by a circlip/snap ring, but i have never removed the outer joint.
after having a quick flip through my manual there seems to be no mention of removing the outer joint either, only re-packing it with cv grease.

[Updated on: Sun, 16 January 2005 14:30]

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BabyZ
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Re: CV joint removal Sun, 16 January 2005 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Generally, the outer CVs are not made to be disassembled. The standard procedure to replace an outer boot, for example, is to pull the inner CV apart, then slide the outer boot on from the other end.

Having said that, most will come off intact, given enough violence. You need to slip the boot back along the shaft so that you can get a decent sized drift (prefarably brass) onto the inner cage, right next to the shaft. Then pound it with a hammer, parallel to the shaft. It should pop off, much like the inner joint pops off over the snap ring on the transaxle output shaft.

I know it's not standard procedure, but I remember doing Mazda outer boots this way, having been assured by a mechanic I trust (a rare animal indeed) that he always did it that way to save the time and hassle of dismantling the inner CV (or even popping the joint off the gearbox).

The usual disclaimers apply - I'm guessing you don't care too much if you damage the CV, but don't come crying to me if you bash the crap out of one (or more)of your fingers Razz
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davedave
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Re: CV joint removal Mon, 17 January 2005 03:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool, thanks for that.

There's a ball thing on the end of the shaft right? so hit just next to there somewhere?
Does the joint need to be 'straight' when I do this?
Any trick to putting it back on, or just push?

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Dave

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BabyZ
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Re: CV joint removal Mon, 17 January 2005 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It doesn't matter if it is straight or not, as it is this bit here that you are trying to whack:

http://img126.exs.cx/img126/9167/cvjoint7vu.jpg

It is the inner part of the cage that holds the balls in place that you are trying to hit. It slips over the splined end of the shaft.

Putting it back on - refit the snap ring first, then yeah, just grease it a bit and push it back on. Theoretically you buy and fit a new snap ring first, but many people seem to get away with putting the old one back on.

Edited: For clarity

[Updated on: Mon, 17 January 2005 08:05]

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davedave
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Re: CV joint removal Mon, 17 January 2005 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Perfect, that image just told a thousand words!

Thanks so much!
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davedave
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Re: CV joint removal Tue, 18 January 2005 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well I belted the bejesus out of it, firstly with a brass drift and ball hammer, then brass drift and block hammer, then blunt chisel and block hammer, then blunt chisel and sledge hammer (small swing), then large rod held by long pliers and medium swing sledge hammer, then just medium swing sledge hammer. We refrained from full swing sledge as we value our workshop and the medium swings was already causing dammage to the CV.

So I rang around a few places and landed on the incredible Southern Drive Shafts in Miranda. Who for $60 a side (trade), changed and repacked my outer CVs. For $10 a pop, installed new boots. And for nothing, assembled one of my inner CVs which had missing parts.
Couldn't be happier for $160, comming out with 4 new boots and knowing my CVs were professionally pressed off and on (and not just had the crap belted out of them).

Another drive shaft place told be they could not be dissassembled in any way shape or form and would only replace them with new outer CVs for $200 per side.
All mechanics said they would give it a belt but could not garauntee getting them off, or shattering them in the process.

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~mk15/images/IMGP1239_800.jpg
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BabyZ
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Re: CV joint removal Wed, 19 January 2005 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I can't say that I am surprised that you couldn't shift it. By the same token, I would have been equally unsurprised if you had succeeded!!

Just goes to show though, if you don't like what a 'mechanic' tells you, it's often a good idea to ask another. All too often "it can't be done" equates to either "I can't be bothered" or "I haven't got a clue, but I'm not going to admit that to you" Rolling Eyes

Southern Drive Shafts, Miranda has been duly noted in my book of 'good blokes'. Smile
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davedave
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Re: CV joint removal Wed, 19 January 2005 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I forgot to mention, they also did it in 2 hours with no notice Smiley =
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Re: CV joint removal Wed, 19 January 2005 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how did you get the damn thing off?..i need to replace my lieft side cv joints/arm/boots, do i need to pull my engine out (for the fourth time Mad) or do i need to take suspension,hubs off etc?.. i really dont wanna take my suspension ouit again as it took a full day per side - no spring compressors- only 3 days ago, so yeah any advice would be good thanks
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Re: CV joint removal Wed, 19 January 2005 06:47 Go to previous message
You don't have to use spring compressors to remove the suspension.

To pull the shafts out you will have to remove the hubs from the struts though.
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