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AE82 options
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Wed, 19 January 2005 02:09
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hey guys, im new to these forums, but i dont know how a forum like this got passed me, i love what u've done to the place!
ok i drive an AE82 1985 sedan which has a 4A stock 1.6l s/cam motor in it. My goal is to get some more power, whether it be in the form of a new, better engine, or with other bolt ons. Just wanted to hear some suggestions for engine upgrades. I realise that upgrading to a 4AGE motor will require installing a wiring loom and all that electrical Shazz. I have look into getting halfcuts (ideal option) but they are all in excess of 1.5 g's. Just wondering what you guys would do in my situation. I also realise that a brake and suspension upgrade will be due to handle this power (but they are just about due anyhow). I had a quick search on the forums to find some of these answers but no one seems to be in my situation. cheers in advance
matty
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Menai area of Sydney
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June 2003
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Re: AE82 options
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Wed, 19 January 2005 03:09
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If you want to keep your own car then I suggest you get a wrecked AE82 Twincam and swap all the gear across you want includind suspension, brakes, EFI fuel tank and lines, tacho cluster, engine and exhaust. Also suggest replacing engine bay, under dash and fuel pum wiring looms instead of trying to rewire the existing looms. I've done this swap so I have reasons for suggesting each of the above. If you buy an engine, ECU and wiring loom you'll still need a tank, fuel lines and rewiring looms so for the price difference I'd get a wreck. - Also means you can see where everything goes like sensors etc.
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Adelaide
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July 2002
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Re: AE82 options
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Wed, 19 January 2005 09:56
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dont waste money on the 4ac, you'll never get any grunt out of it with out spending crazy money on it.
only thing u should really do is the exhaust, this DOES make a difference and you can actually rev the bastard over 5000rpm all the way to 6000rpm, 4ac's love those hi revs, just watch for the oil dipstick popping out and oil leaks around that area.
just go cat back, if you have a cat, 2" system with resonator and box muffler, dont go straight thru it'll sound shit
then spend the rest of the money on good suspension, get a whiteline front and rear sway bar (preferably adjustable) get some decent springs (king springs are good) and shocks (kyb are good here) also try to pick up a twin cam strut brace (they're rare at wreckers you'll prolly pay around 100 bucks for one if you can get one)
then get some decent tyres, widest bastards you can get, also check out wreckers for some cheap mags that will go on you car that are atleast 6" or wider so you can get some 195's on there, but make sure you get mags that have the correct offset/studd pattern and centre hole. Also try to get the right lug nuts for em too.
now your car will handle like it has no right to and you'll maybe, stress maybe, be able to keep up with a standard twin cam thru the downhill twisties
if i was keeping my rolla i would be going for that suspension set up
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Potts Point, Sydney
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October 2003
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Re: AE82 options
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Wed, 19 January 2005 11:58
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| Hunty wrote on Wed, 19 January 2005 20:56 |
dont waste money on the 4ac, you'll never get any grunt out of it with out spending crazy money on it.
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yeh that's true, they're unbreakable but dont have any guts  a massive 60kw at the flywheel or something 
I was bored today, so i decided to install CAI on mine for some shits and giggles Still stock as i've got a few other things planned for it first 
Get a frontcut of a 20V or 4AGE, that's be your best bet 
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Re: AE82 options
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Wed, 19 January 2005 13:47
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| dimmy77_03 wrote on Wed, 19 January 2005 22:28 |
yeh that's true, they're unbreakable but dont have any guts a massive 60kw at the flywheel or something
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Yep gave my old one away to one of the hatchi guys in sa and they ran it at full tilt with no coolant and only about a litre of oil if that, for about 6 minutes before it died. not a bad effort if you ask me!!
60kw?? oh yeh back in 1986 with no anciliories (i cant spell) and 105 octane jap fuel
my mums suzuki swift 1.3litre carby job with a whopping 47kw at the fly goes harder than my corolla did with the 4ac, k the swift weighs about 100kgs less tho.
they are shit performance engines [4ac], conversion is fun and easy (relatively) just get all the shit you need, if your not sure search, if you cant find anything, your not looking hard enuff, but if you REALLY cant find anything PM me ill help you out as much as possible as i've done a 4age into a 4ac rolla like yours. If your budget is limited and your mechanicals skills are also limited the easier engine to put in and wire is the small port, the 20v and GZE are better engines but also more complex to install/wire. Dont let wiring put you down on a conversion its really not that hard if you get an engine with a complete loom, or can read a wiring diagram, check out the tech docs section on toymods.org.au front page its in articles i think. If it all fails and you cant do it just pay an auto elect to do it, they love it
smallports are still lots of fun, power wise they're not far off a 20v bout 10kw (realistically, dont quote that toyota power figure, we all know its bollocks) GZE really is the shit when it comes to 4a motors, tons of torque so you'll scare the traffic light heros.
good luck with it all,
personally i would go the suspension route first, otherwise you;ll have a fast car that wont turn properlly = unsafe. I'd much rather have a slow car that shows up most cars in the twisties.
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