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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Thu, 20 January 2005 09:04
 
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I always thought they were different, and the proof is that Bomex make a different aftermarket front bar for narrow and Wide body Supras. I have seen a narrow body front bar off the ground and it did look different to me.
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March 2003
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Thu, 20 January 2005 09:22
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Some GA70's were wide bodies, others were not. I believe the later 1's were (late 88 onwards).
I had a GA70 front cut and it was the wide bodied variant.
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Thu, 20 January 2005 11:33
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Cheers thanks for confirming... prob best if I get a bar from a MA70 then  .. not worth the risk as it wont be fitted until after the car comes out of the paint shop and it will already be painted then.
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July 2002
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Thu, 20 January 2005 12:54
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Maybe people are confusing the early 70 series with the update version.
MA70 does not ensure wide body. A 1986 model MA70 is certainly not widebody. Update occurred around late 88 but there was a huge overlap. Early version is narrow only but update is narrow or wide. From what I can tell, All aus delivered update versions are widebody. (update version has the raised middle section in the front bar, a 3 piece wing and the newer look tail lights).
From my research front bars are compatible between narrow and widebody but not between early and update version. Also I am pretty sure the GA70 is only available as a narrow body with update.
So as long as your MA70 is an update the GA bar will be ok. My old MA70 (widebody update) has a GA70 front bar.
Hope that is more helpful than confusing 
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November 2003
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Thu, 20 January 2005 20:14
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You can't fit a newer style front bar to a MA70 with the older style front bar? .. I have seen it done in the states... here is a link.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s= &threadid=160465&highlight=bumper+conversi on
Anyway, so if I purchase a GA70 front bar are you telling me that it will fit an aussie delivered MA70 (widebody)?.
Looking more and more I look at it the more it looks like it wont.
GA70 came in narrow and wide...I have seen both in the flesh.. mine used to be narrow, but I have also seen a wide body GA70 from the factory.
Confusing stuff.
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September 2002
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Fri, 21 January 2005 01:45
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ALL Australian delivered MA70/71 Supras were wide body, this includes the early non-turbo pre-update 7M-GE powered models. The narrow body was never sold new outside of Japan. GA70s were narrow body only up untill 91 when you had the option of narrow or wide body on the GA70. To swap between early and late front bumpers you need to also swap the grilles and indicator/parker lights. but it all bolts straight up. I am 99.9%sure the narrow body front bumper, even in the newer update style is not the same as the wide body one.
HTH
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November 2003
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Fri, 21 January 2005 01:54
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Yep 100% agree with you HKS_TRD.
Damn if anyone knows someone with a Jap Version MA70 bumper or a JZA70 bumper for sale please let me know.
Must be someone out there that has one left over from a half cut 
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July 2002
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Fri, 21 January 2005 08:34
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Haha sure is.
As for update bar on early, the nose cone is different the grill is different and the corner lamps are dsifferent so I guess if you changed the lot at once it could work out fine.
My bar said GA70 but if ppl here are telling me there were wide GA70's then it may well have been one of those. Therefore you may be right, narrow may not fit on.
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July 2002
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Fri, 21 January 2005 08:40
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Hey HKS, what do you call widebody? I was under the impression it means the flared guards front and rear. As in take the guards and cut the wheel arches off and both are the same car.
I have a narrow GA70 89 model and a wide MA70R aussie model in my yard now. Both are the same width from window sill to window sill but the MA has the larger guards. Both have the update tail lights.
In which cased, all 1986 MA70's are narrow as I have NEVER seen an early model mk. 3 with the boxier guards.
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tas
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June 2002
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Fri, 21 January 2005 13:50
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i have a wideguard on one side and a narrow guard on the other, they match up to the front bumper just fine. So that should answer your qeustion about using a narrow GA70 bumper on a widebody MA70
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July 2002
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Fri, 21 January 2005 14:08
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Haha well there you go.
Sounds like a nice look
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Wagga
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August 2004
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Tue, 08 March 2005 22:11
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After reading this, i am so confused. I have Ma70 with the early front bumper and i want to change it to the one that came out in 89. Is this posible?
I may sound dumb but this thread is confusing, so many different opinions
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November 2003
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Wed, 09 March 2005 02:50
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| Flebbert wrote on Wed, 09 March 2005 09:11 |
After reading this, i am so confused. I have Ma70 with the early front bumper and i want to change it to the one that came out in 89. Is this posible?
I may sound dumb but this thread is confusing, so many different opinions
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This is 100% possible... why?.. because I have just completed the task myself a few weeks ago .
What you need to do is get your hands on the following to do the conversion,
- 89+ Front bar (of course )
- 89+ Front Indicator set and grill inserts (see below regarding this)
- 89+ Driving lights - Optional (you can NOT use the old ones, they don't fit into the 89+ bar slots).
- The Metal bracket behind the nose cone from an 89+ car (you know part that has the front badge on it... well there is a bracket behind that you will need IF you want to use the 89+ front indicator set).
Ok first off with the metal bar/bracket that the nose cone mounts onto. On the older shape the indicators are a different length, so the mounting points between the old indicators and the new indicators are different. So if you want to fit the new indicators you will need the new mounting points. These mounting points are on the bracket. You can use the old indicators if you dont want to go through all this, but the old full length grill will not fit anymore, so you would have to cut that to fill the gap that will be left.
Ok other than that the only other bit of modification that you will need to do is with the bracket in where the fog lights sit, very minor cutting of bar...this is all covered in the link I provided a few posts up.
Be prepared to give yourself a bit of time to do this, the hardest thing to remove is the nuts in the front of the bar, there is nearly no room to get in there with a socket, so have a small 10mm spanner ready and be prepared to swear a few times
Basically 1st step is take out the front indicators and go from there.
[Updated on: Wed, 09 March 2005 02:51]
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Wed, 09 March 2005 03:52
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Have some driver lights for the newer 89+ bumpers forsale if anyone needs them.
Someone on these forums sold them to me for $150 saying they will fit my 87, and they were wrong and i so i just wanna get rid of them. PM if interested.
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Re: GA70 & MA70 front bar difference?..wide vs narrow
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Wed, 09 March 2005 04:00
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