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T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 08:06
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Hey peoples. Just wanted to hear everybody's opinion on these two short-shifters. As i understand it,
the T3 shifter decreases the throw by 55% while the TRD unit decreases it by 33% according to the T3 website.
Anyone tried either, or even better, both of these shifters and what did you think of each one? To me, 55%
reduction seems like a bit much but without having tried either one yet, i can't really make a proper judgement.
Any feedback would be great. Cheers.
eddie.
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 08:49
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the TRD one is crazy short, its wrecked my syncros pretty quick
the t3 one would be stupid
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nelson, new zealand
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October 2004
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 20:25
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how did a gear lever wreck your syncros???
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 21:51
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I was chatting to a guy who runs a AE86 in improved production racing and he warned me not to run the T50 short shifters either because it causes gearbox damage.
He didn't go into why though.
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nelson, new zealand
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October 2004
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 21:55
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well i suppose having a quick shifter will hurry the syncros along a bit faster... but i suspect in a race car it was caused more by racing changes... something syncros dont like much!
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 22:45
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The TRD one can kill synchros because of the way it was designed. At higher speeds there is no vibration dampening and the stick moves around... A LOT. Ive even seen it wobbling around enough that it has popped out of gear. I would assume that it has synchro destroying power due to this design flaw and the repeated almost disengagement of the gear but leaving hte synchromesh in.
I have a C's shifter, which is nice and sharp without having the vibration problems inherent with the TRD one.
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nelson, new zealand
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October 2004
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 22:50
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what do you mean by no vibration damping? it should have the same bushs as the stock unit....
iv got one on the way here.. ill take pics etc when it arrives
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Sat, 22 January 2005 00:32
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both shifters have a little elastomer dampener in the upper part of the shifter. Contained within the bulbous housing. The TRD one is made of a harder rubber than the others and therefore doesnt dampen the vibrations as much.
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Sat, 22 January 2005 03:24
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yep hes right,
c's > trd > t3
the trd vibrates like a bitch over 5000rpm
the c's are rare as hell
the syncros wear ebcuase of the requirement to shift gears faster
and they cant keep up, so they wear out.
anyone want to sell a c's to me?
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Sat, 22 January 2005 04:01
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couldnt you copy the design of a cs and get a new one made up?
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Sydney
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September 2004
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Sat, 22 January 2005 04:38
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so people would recommend C's, then TRD and lastly T3, is that correct? anyone know how much does C's short-shifter reduce the gear throw as well? cheers.
eddie
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Location:
Adelaide
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May 2003
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Location:
Gold Coast
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April 2003
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Mon, 14 March 2005 08:05
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Anyone have a price comparison on these shifters?
Everyone has bagged the TRD for not having vibration dampening but whats wrong with the T3 shifter?
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Sydney
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September 2004
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Mon, 14 March 2005 08:12
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| Bazooka wrote on Mon, 14 March 2005 19:05 |
Anyone have a price comparison on these shifters?
Everyone has bagged the TRD for not having vibration dampening but whats wrong with the T3 shifter?
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LOOK UP THE PRICES!!! They are all available online. Look at Greenline, T3 and ring up toyota to find out the prices of TRD quickshifts. It seriously isn't difficult.
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Location:
Sydney
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January 2003
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Club Member
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sydney
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May 2002
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Tue, 15 March 2005 04:50
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thats strange all the issues you guys have with gearbox problems with short shifters, mines not a genuine TRD but is dimensionally a close copy yet I get no noise in the cabin or excessive vibration over X rpm as some others have stated in other threads, nor have I had any problems with wearing syncros, and this is after 3 years spirited driving. I diddnt even have a problem with the genuine TRD one in one of my old rally cars? "shrugs"
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: T3 vs TRD short-shifter for t-50 box?
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Tue, 15 March 2005 05:24
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Likewise, my rough-as-guts one (no rubber in the gearstick, bronze bush on the bottom of the ball) doesn't have any issues either, the synchro's are stuffed because the box was 300000km old when I put it in!
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