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On Probation
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nsw
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March 2004
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Diff
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Sun, 23 January 2005 10:49
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Is there an LSD diff that bolts into the RA23 ?
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Location:
adelaide
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November 2004
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On Probation
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nsw
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March 2004
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Re: Diff
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Sun, 23 January 2005 11:09
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Are they the RN27 Hilux diffs ? know where i can get one?
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Location:
adelaide
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November 2004
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Re: Diff
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Sun, 23 January 2005 11:14
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im pretty sure they are RN41. i doubt youl find one moded already but you can probably get a standard one from a wrecker.
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On Probation
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nsw
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March 2004
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 25 January 2005 00:00
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Cool, geez all the wreckers I speak to seem retarded ?
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 25 January 2005 00:06
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why do you think they are wreckers? because they like cars?
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On Probation
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nsw
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March 2004
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 25 January 2005 00:12
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True reminds me of deliverance every time i walk into a wreckers 
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 25 January 2005 00:28
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You don't go into the wrecking business because you have a high IQ...
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 25 January 2005 04:49
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| Norbie wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 10:28 |
You don't go into the wrecking business because you have a high IQ...
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hence i quit after two weeks of being employed at one
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Land of Oz
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June 2004
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 25 January 2005 05:37
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Hi,
| badboybubby wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 11:12 |
True reminds me of deliverance every time i walk into a wreckers
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Wear a flanno shirt and bring along a banjo next time you go. Maybe they'll be more helpful.... either that or they'll make you squeal like a pig! 
seeyuzz
river
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On Probation
Location:
nsw
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 25 January 2005 05:58
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Wear a flanno shirt and bring along a banjo next time you go. Maybe they'll be more helpful.... either that or they'll make you squeal like a pig!
Only if I get it cheaper
Ive found a LM106R G52 G285 in a 93 4WD Hilux does this mean anything to anyone ?
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Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
Registered:
August 2004
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On Probation
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nsw
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March 2004
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Re: Diff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 10:40
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Your a legend towe $700 sounds ok doesnt it ?
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 12:20
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Remember if it came off a 4WD Hilux it will have 6-stud hubs...
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On Probation
Location:
nsw
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: Diff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 13:07
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Fugit has anyone done a conversion or am i gunna have to tub it and run 21" bling bling rims 
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Location:
Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
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August 2004
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 03:57
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| badboybubby wrote on Wed, 26 January 2005 21:40 |
Your a legend towe $700 sounds ok doesnt it ?
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Yeah legend at meal breaks
Yeah i'd say so but check for play in the diff 1st. But i'd say being a late model there wouldn't much if any, but still.....
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 04:16
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Your going to have to do a conversion to 6 stud or 5 stud of 4 stud in some way shape or form. BUT BUT BUT remember this.. If you redrill and WELD axle plates from 6 stud down to 4 stud you'll not be able to get it engineered because you have welded the axle plates. Another issue to get around that is if you get the 5 stud ones (Which I happen to be looking for too. rare as dogs balls) then you can just re-drill them without having to weld them and hence from my believing can be engineered because they are not welding.
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Location:
Northwestern Sydney
Registered:
August 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 04:19
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Or.... Find an F Series diff from a MX23 rig up a jig based on the standard Celica diff mount points and weld on new brackets.
LSD for these are easy to find as well.
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 05:18
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how strong are they though?
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 05:53
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F series??? strong enough for a 1G?!?
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 05:53
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Yeah, that was teh question. I have no idea
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 05:54
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F series is strong enough for a 2JZ... 1G will not be a problem.
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 05:57
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Sorry badly written.
Standard diff size on MKIII supras, so if it can put up with 7M-GTE - 1J's will handle a 1G-GTE in a rather light celica easily.
Probably not as strong as a G but not too far off.
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 05:57
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So there is no particular need to go hunting for a g series hilux diff to put in an ra23, it could be good enough to simply get a f series mx23 diff?
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 05:57
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Ah, but is there a shortening issue?
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 06:10
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Ok, so all told sounds like a reasonable solution. Hrm, how easy are they to find though. Frankly I'd never heard of a mx23 before, but I'm guessing it's a 5m? cresida of the same vintage as an ra23? or some such?
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 06:34
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Mark II Corona = MX23
Celicas diff width is about 1370mm the MX23 is about 1410mm
If you are going for a front brake up grade there is a combination that will bring the front out about that far as well widening your choice of rim as you will probably need to change offsets slightly. there are 2 RA28 I know of that have similar diff treatment.
And from a search I was doing the F series is about 25kg lighter than the G series. Diff
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 06:38
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Gotcha. So the pitfall is the track widening.
Well, thanks that answers the questions. Seeing as I already have the rims, I think I'll be sticking with the hilux one, despite the fact that it's harder to find. But thanks for the info all the same, makes shit loads more sense now.
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: Diff
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Fri, 28 January 2005 06:42
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Yeah It comes down to weather you have the rims or not.
Generally speaking the stock size rims will still go under the rear, but if you have wider rims you'll run into issues
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On Probation
Location:
nsw
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: Diff
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Sun, 30 January 2005 09:58
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Am i gunna need to shorten the tailshaft ? 
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Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 02:31
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| badboybubby wrote on Sun, 23 January 2005 21:49 |
Is there an LSD diff that bolts into the RA23 ?
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LSD's are available for the standard T series diff. You could track one down second hand for about $500 if you looked, but the sprinter guys are always looking out for them so they are getting difficult to come by. I think they are still available new.
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 02:52
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| Lambolica wrote on Fri, 28 January 2005 16:57 |
Sorry badly written.
Standard diff size on MKIII supras, so if it can put up with 7M-GTE - 1J's will handle a 1G-GTE in a rather light celica easily.
Probably not as strong as a G but not too far off.
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MkIII supras have a G series diff, and i would suggest strad DEFINTLY go G series in his application
Allan
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 03:07
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G series is good but overkill for a 1G in a light car. F series will be more than up to the task as already mentioned, and has the advantage of being lighter and available in 4-stud.
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 04:15
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you would recomend an F series diff in a car that will have a lot of hard launchs and much tire killing from a 1g-gte that has a GT40 stuck to the side of it???
i think a little over engineering in this area would be welcomed
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 04:23
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Yep, I reckon an F series will be fine. Hard launches aren't such a concern - a 2 litre engine with such a large turbo won't have a lot of torque off the line.
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 04:45
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Thanks Allan, your the man. I knew you'd know. Particularly given the fact that you know the car too. Plus you know how I drive. Heh. Although I haven't taken you for a spin in it yet, I better work on that. Just as soon as I get my new diff. I keep killing this one.
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 04:49
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I seem to remember someone with several cars laying around with dead diffs 
from memory the RA23 has the narrow diff?? and requires the RN27 hi-lux diff, try contacting richard aka 1978supra?? i think he has done this.
Allan
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 04:54
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An array of them anyhow.heh
Yeah after much searching, it is true, the rn27 is the right diff for it, but try finding one. They are as rare as dogs balls. But yeah, the diffs are narrow. I know of one, but it's miles away and it costs a bit, but I might have to pay for it anyway. You may have read my story here a while ago about it.
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Location:
Madrid - Spain
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August 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 22:11
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Hey Norbie, how much torque was your 2J making on full boost. And you were having axle tramp problems too.
If an F series diff can cope with that kind of torture, then I recon it ain't too bad.
Having said that if you are planning on using a locked diff and running around on race tyres all the time, you may end up snapping the odd axle.
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 22:46
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Hence why I'm going g series and probably with a detroit locker.
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 23:58
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G series axles are a little bigger
and T vs G series center
Anyone care to provide F series comparison?
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Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 01 February 2005 00:49
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Allan, just looking at your signature, you do realise that the supra owes it's heratage to the "sexuality challanged" celicas
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Location:
Land of Oz
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 01 February 2005 04:18
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Hi,
I'm sure he meant the LT and ST versions of Celicas. Not the GT version, especially with its wonderful F-series diff! 
nyuk nyuk nyuk
seeyuzz
river
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 01 February 2005 05:12
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| gold28 wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 08:11 |
Hey Norbie, how much torque was your 2J making on full boost. And you were having axle tramp problems too.
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I don't have an actual torque figure, but in laymans terms it's "a metric arseload".
Yes I was getting pretty bad axle tramp before I replaced the suspension.
Frankly I can't see why anyone would consider the F diff weak when it has been proven time and time again behind 1JZ, 2JZ and yes even 7M turbo engines. I somehow doubt a weenie little 1G is going to create much of a problem.
But hey, it's not my money.
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On Probation
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nsw
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 01 February 2005 05:28
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What does the RA23 have in it? would it cope with a spool?
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 01 February 2005 05:56
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| gold28 wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 11:49 |
Allan, just looking at your signature, you do realise that the supra owes it's heratage to the "sexuality challanged" celicas
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yes and no, i was more refering to the tarted up coronas IE front wheel drive models that chaged to ST chassis codes, the "celica" died after the RA65 and then become the "sexuality challanged" celicas
and anyway if you compare MA45 to RA40 thay are worlds apart besides floor pan, roof and doors
And the cost of a G series diff over an F series would be minimal anyway!
Allan
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Diff
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Tue, 01 February 2005 06:06
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What do you mean would it cope with a spool?
As for what the ra23 has in it, they come standard with an 18rc, which would probably shit itself trying to put the pressure on a spool center, yes.
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