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mx 83 1j crossmembers Wed, 26 January 2005 07:14 Go to next message
Ok ive done a little search , but havent come up wif much positive. Is there a model mx83 that has the right crossmember 4 a 1 j swap ie u get the jzx81 mounts and rubbers and bolt it straight in and does the g/box auto mount line up.
Also whats the diff between the early and late mx83 crossmembers.
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Wed, 26 January 2005 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
motor fits in easy with the jzx81 crossmember.

does anyone know if the single turbo 1j has diff mounting brackets to the twin turbo 1j

and if diff is there any bolt in crossmember that will fit so no welding required.

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cambelt- look in the conversion pics under scrotes 1j conversion there should be a pic with both crossmembers,brakes etc might help ya out
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Wed, 26 January 2005 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cambelt wrote on Wed, 26 January 2005 18:14

Ok ive done a little search , but havent come up wif much positive. Is there a model mx83 that has the right crossmember 4 a 1 j swap ie u get the jzx81 mounts and rubbers and bolt it straight in and does the g/box auto mount line up.
Also whats the diff between the early and late mx83 crossmembers.
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Late 91 onwards MX83 has the correct cross member fitted as standard that will allow the factory 1JZ /2JZ alloy mounts to match the MX83 Base.


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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Wed, 26 January 2005 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
scrote wrote on Wed, 26 January 2005 20:59

cambelt- look in the conversion pics under scrotes 1j conversion there should be a pic with both crossmembers,brakes etc might help ya out

Hmm, so the JZX81 crossmember IS slightly different to the late MX83 crossmember.

Do you reckon it would cause any problems if you used the late MX83 crossmember with the JZX81 mounts?
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Thu, 27 January 2005 01:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Thu, 27 January 2005 10:16

scrote wrote on Wed, 26 January 2005 20:59

cambelt- look in the conversion pics under scrotes 1j conversion there should be a pic with both crossmembers,brakes etc might help ya out

Hmm, so the JZX81 crossmember IS slightly different to the late MX83 crossmember.

Do you reckon it would cause any problems if you used the late MX83 crossmember with the JZX81 mounts?


I recall people doing it? Or at least saying it can be done on a few occasions...

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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Thu, 27 January 2005 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OK, to Fit my 2JZGTE into my 8/92 Cressida...

Factory Crossmember - (Came with car)
Factory MX83 Cressida Rubber mounts - ($70 each)
Factory JZX81 Chaser (ie, 1JZGTE) Alloy mounts (just under $250 NEW)

They all bolt straight up...
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Thu, 27 January 2005 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool

Just that looking at this picture, the JZX81 crossmember mounts are ever-so-slightly flatter.
Obviously doesn't pose a problem.

http://www.toymods.org.au/gallery/albums/Gallery/Conversions/Scrotes%201JZ/Xmmebers%20001.jpg
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Thu, 27 January 2005 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The facelift MX83 uses the SAME crossmember as the JZX81, even the toyota part number is the same. The earlier MX83 uses a different crossmember where the mounts sit on more of an angle.
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Thu, 27 January 2005 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Early MX83 uses this crossmember.

EDIT: Apparently it doesn't....

http://www.oz-enet.com.au/~peewee/mounts/mount_xmember_1.jpg.JPG

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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Thu, 27 January 2005 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the one with "MX83" written on it looks exactly like my GX81 crossmember I have on the floor here.
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Fri, 28 January 2005 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks 4 the replys, im sure a few people have wondered this.
cruzida thats a mx 73 crossmember not mx83 , the gx 81 prob runs those upright type mounts as well. i know the the mx 83 have diff mounts early and late.
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Sat, 29 January 2005 00:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cambelt wrote on Fri, 28 January 2005 22:36

cruzida thats a mx 73 crossmember not mx83 , the gx 81 prob runs those upright type mounts as well. i know the the mx 83 have diff mounts early and late.

Yes, it is MX73, but I have always been under the impression that the early MX83, and MX73 ran the same crossmember...

Maybe the difference between the two crossmembers is shown in that pic with the MX83 vs JZX81.

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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Sat, 29 January 2005 04:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that pic with the two shows an early MX83 and a late MX83/JZX81
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Sat, 29 January 2005 04:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jasonp1977 wrote on Sat, 29 January 2005 12:04

that pic with the two shows an early MX83 and a late MX83/JZX81

Ok, cool, thats for clearing that up.
I'll put that in the memory banks.
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Sun, 30 January 2005 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Another thing does the viscous type 1j fan clear the mx 83 rad if u can use a viscous one or do they use the hydraulic type. and r the 1j and the 7m radiators the same 2 row core .
do most people run elecric fans on there 1j mx83,s
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Mon, 31 January 2005 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bump,any1
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Mon, 31 January 2005 22:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi Dave,

From the mk3 supras the 7m and 1jz radiators were both 2 core, and virtually the same apart from the top/bottom tanks which were different on the 1jz due to the mount points for the hydraulic fan. I ended up with a cressida radiator in my ma70 which was the same 2 row radiator core as the supra one, and made a couple of mounts for the hydraulic fan.

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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Tue, 01 February 2005 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so i wonder if the jzx81 is hydraulic or viscous,
anyone remember
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Tue, 01 February 2005 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My JZX81 was (is) the hydraulic fan setup.

Moves lots of air. Makes the wiring more interesting, though Rolling Eyes
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Wed, 02 February 2005 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
does the hydraulic fan control box get its temp reading from a seperate temp sender or off the ecu, and is the output 2 the solonoid on the pump a fixed varied or a pulse type signal, what happens if u apply a fixed voltage 2 the solonoid. ie fan speed
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Re: mx 83 1j crossmembers Thu, 03 February 2005 02:56 Go to previous message
On the jza70 the hydraulic fan control box gets a temp reading from a seperate sensor in the bottom of the radiator (something to think about if you want to keep the mx81 radiator). If the fan control is connected to the loom without receiving the temp input than the speed is set to high all the time - which pushes heaps of air.

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