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Miss
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18RG pistons/rings Wed, 26 January 2005 10:29 Go to next message
Hey there Toyota Nerds

I'm rebuilding my 18RG (for the RA23 road car) and am having trouble getting pistons/rings.

So far: block has been stripped, head has been serviced and hottie cams put in. I was originally just going to hone it but it needs to be bored a little... a little bit of water (?) damage (curse of the previous owner).

I'm trying to keep away from the forged piston option as it will be a daily driver. But so far I haven't come up with any other good solutions.

I can get a set of genuine pistons (there are four sets in the country) but not the rings. I've pulled in a favour or three and have got Mal (from Phillip Toyota for Canberrans) trying to see if Toyota Japan will fabricate some rings to suit. Haven't heard back from him so things aren't looking good there.

Does anyone know whether rings from an 18RC (or something else for that matter) will suit the genuine pistons?

Or if someone's got another plan I could try that would be great too...

*bloody old cars, nothing's ever easy, but damn they've got class*

Cheers

Lizzy

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Mr DOHC
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Wed, 26 January 2005 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
they are the same

how much are the new pistons, what compression
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Jason
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Thu, 27 January 2005 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
last piston i bought was a 9.7:1 1MM oversized of $120 i think genuine. Just use 18r-c rings as above if its not going to be anything to special.
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YelloRolla
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Thu, 27 January 2005 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Try Panjay in Mona Vale - they stock lots of replacement type rings.

Perfect Seal operate out of Australian Precision Engine Parts in victoria (Trevor is the contact) is another option.
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Celica_RA40
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Thu, 27 January 2005 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ACL make rings for it
when i rebuilt my 18r-GEU i bought some that suited a 6 cylinder toyota engine, cant remember now, if you go to www.acl.com.au and download their piston pdf catalouge you should be able to match up the size. but i think they may only work if you keep close to the standard size as you have to order the rings in an oversize to fit the pistons spot on
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Mr DOHC
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Thu, 27 January 2005 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
18RC rings are identical, just get them, they are worth pocket change
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Celica_RA40
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Thu, 27 January 2005 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
maybe my pistons were someting different, when i was building my engine the rings were a different thickness to the standard 18r-c ones. if you can get away with it dont replace the one of the timing chain tensioner slippers. i remember paying about $240 for a genuine toyota one. it the one the plunger pushes on.
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thechuckster
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Thu, 27 January 2005 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
When talking with Terry OBiernw on wednesday, he said he can re-make/locate those guides for 18RG engines. He's here on toymods and runs a shop called Road & Track at ipswich.
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blackRA28
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Fri, 28 January 2005 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Um, sorry to hijack thread.. i wonder if Terry OBiern mite be able to source/make up some sets for toymodders... some sort of group purchase maybe for all the people wanting 18RG guides cheaper than genuine..
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Norbie
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Fri, 28 January 2005 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hell yeah, I need chain guides and would prefer not to be anally raped for them...
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Scootaphill
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Fri, 28 January 2005 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Back to the original question!!
Its my understanding that the ring sizes are different 18rc to 18rg. i think its the second compression ring thats different. it will also pay to keep in mind that the 18rg rev's alot harder than the 18rc and therefor cromemoly rings are the way to go...
i hope i havent missinformed you, good luck.
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chaoren
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Fri, 28 January 2005 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My 18rgeu pistons were 8.8.1. You will find that one or both rings are thinner than the 18rc's.
What I did was take the pistons and get them machined to suit a set of rings eg.18rc. for street use that will be fine.
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chaoren
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Fri, 28 January 2005 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
this avatar is not mine????????or the name??????

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earlyrolla
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Re: 18RG pistons/rings Fri, 28 January 2005 11:25 Go to previous message
Both the first and second compression rings are definitely thinner on the 18RG to the 18RC.

When I purchased new rings for my motor the 1st compression ring was chrome-moly and the second ring was cast. I had no problem getting standard rings, as for oversized rings I am not sure.

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