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7MSupra
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Intercooler Piping Thu, 27 January 2005 14:01 Go to next message
Hi all,
As i am doing my whole engine i thought i will put my front mount intercooler on as well.
Im just after the size of the piping i should use. Should i go 3" all the way or will that be laggy on my 7M-GTE

Has anyone fitted a frontmount to a 7M_GTE supra on here? Do i need to relocate my window washer bottle??

And what is the best pipe material recomended??

[Updated on: Thu, 27 January 2005 14:03]

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bbaacchhyy
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Re: Intercooler Piping Thu, 27 January 2005 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
First of all - what model ? Mk2 or Mk3 ?

I have used 2.5" and this seems to be a general consensus both here and in the states for these engines. But it can depend on the cooler itself.

Material is entirely up to you and what you can afford/can access. There have been many threads on it. For real world applications, there is no performance differenec between mild steel, stainless or alloy.
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Re: Intercooler Piping Thu, 27 January 2005 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What he said. Mild steel 2.5" does the job, anything more than that is just for bling/wank factor unless you're building some crazy hp dyno queen.
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Re: Intercooler Piping Thu, 27 January 2005 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You should paint mild steel, to help prevent rust if i'm not mistaken! Rust being sucked into the engine cannot be healthy.
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Re: Intercooler Piping Thu, 27 January 2005 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The inside of the pipe gets coated in oil pretty quickly... oily pipe = no rust.
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Re: Intercooler Piping Thu, 27 January 2005 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
True... but i'd rather be safe, than sorry!
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Re: Intercooler Piping Thu, 27 January 2005 23:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stupid question time.... how do you paint inside the pipe? I assume you'd paint it after you weld it together?! which for me it means it would be about 3 foot long with a 90deg bend in the middle.
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Painting isn't a good idea... what happens if it gets too hot and the paint flakes off? That's more likely to be a problem than rust! You're better off getting it ceramic coated (they can do this inside and out), that's what I did on my intercooler piping.
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't know if it was just my engine. But my 3SGTE used to really coat those pipes with oil... they were stainless, but they didn't need to be, PLENTY of oil in there... Embarassed
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
could you spray a light film of something like wd40 in there?

then the oil will take over once it gets running.
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 03:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yep - oily as poo in my 4agte
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You have oily poo? damn...

I'm all for mild steel myself, and either ceramic coating (in a range of pretty colours! Including shiny!), or electroplating (chrome, zinc, etc.) to 'keep it healthy on the inside.' (Maybe a little All-Bran could help you with your oily turds, Witzl??)
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Um, I don't wanna get flamed but the only time I got oil in my cooler pipes on a variety of turbo cars was when my turbo had a seal leak . . . good turbo=no oilleaky

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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Practically any stock turbo engine with a few thousand km's under its belt will seep some oil through the oil seals. Not necessarily so much it's dripping out of the pipe, but certainly enough to coat the pipe with a thin protective film of oil.
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have used 2" and 2.5" in mild steel, staino and aluminium (I use aluminium because I can). It is quite amazing how much power can be made thru 2".
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
did you notice a marked difference in responsiveness?
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
not really - the main thing that hurt response was the turbo, but it can pump everything full of air very quickly (big IC).

As I have made changes I have also worked towards better flow paths - may be a trade off?
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I just got all mine done in 2", for 3 reasons.

1) it matched the diameter of the cast 1G pipes
2) it meant I could have much shorter piping as well as much more direct (given my intercooler)
3) it was more than big enough to flow the power I wanted, yet isn't a huge amount of room the turbos waste filling up
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Re: Intercooler Piping Fri, 28 January 2005 15:55 Go to previous message
Yep my current plastic intercooler pipes do have a fair coating of oil in them nothing too bad. Im thinking 2.5" should be big enough. My friend in his 180 has 2.5" turbo to intercooler and 3" to inlet. The workshop said it was going to be too laggy if it was all 3".
My car is a mark 3 and will i have to mount the window washer bottle elsewhere??
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