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Location: Ebbw Vale, Qld
Registered: January 2004
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TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Fri, 28 January 2005 06:28
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I was wondering what the response, peak power etc. would be like with the TD05 16G i think they're off evo 3's or 4's. I would expect good response with higher performance than the stock twins.
any thoughts?
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Location: Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Fri, 28 January 2005 06:39

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I would agree
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Fri, 28 January 2005 09:03

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I have one of these highflowed on my 4agte, its laggy on the 1.6L but should be perfect on the 1ggte
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Registered: June 2002
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Fri, 28 January 2005 10:21

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I imagine it would be quite responsive on a 1g, more so than the EVO possibly.
More exhaust pulses, smoother response!?!?!
You could prolly get away with a TD-06 20g front half on it if you wanted more oomph, common mod for the EVO guys.
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Location: u.s.a. south
Registered: April 2004
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Fri, 28 January 2005 13:43

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1g has more exhaust pulses, but turbo still will act like its on a 2L.
evo3 16g is an excellent turbo for a 2L street car.
Responsive and has held 26+psi to redline on a few fast street mitsus.
12.2 to 11.8sec quarter mile ETs in FULL weight 3350 pound awd cars (DSMs we call 'em)... and that on the stock mitsu ecu! You won't find any brand new, bolt on (for the mitsus), *complete* turbo come close to it. Super deal, and heck of a turbo imo.
That 16g will be 'my 1st turbo' upgrade for my 2Lsohc starion powered ae86
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Fri, 28 January 2005 14:10

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quest wrote on Fri, 28 January 2005 21:43 | 1g has more exhaust pulses, but turbo still will act like its on a 2L.
evo3 16g is an excellent turbo for a 2L street car.
Responsive and has held 26+psi to redline on a few fast street mitsus.
12.2 to 11.8sec quarter mile ETs in FULL weight 3350 pound awd cars (DSMs we call 'em)... and that on the stock mitsu ecu! You won't find any brand new, bolt on (for the mitsus), *complete* turbo come close to it. Super deal, and heck of a turbo imo.
That 16g will be 'my 1st turbo' upgrade for my 2Lsohc starion powered ae86
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Turbo sounds great, but please GOD tell me you aren't putting one of those Starion engines into an AE86!?
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Location: u.s.a. south
Registered: April 2004
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Fri, 28 January 2005 17:51

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..some facts, based on my *experience*.
2L mitsus (with balance shafts intact) are smoother than any toyota 4.
Easier to work on than any toyota 4.
Fits better in any left hand drive (mine is) chasis that any toyota 4.
First 2L swap I did in a te72 years ago, replaced a strong hopped up twin carb 3tc... even on stock boost, the 170 ft-lbs tq of the stazz motor would blow it away, even worse puny little 4ags. Excellent broad powerband, tiresmoke at will 
Now going mpi (similar to pix), then I have a 2.4L spare awaiting.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web /682000-682999/682196_41_full.jpg
Have another ae86, dohc mitsu 2L power. Will go 2.4 eventually as I can find them cheap, but already silly power so no hurry.
I have an upcoming gts (ae86/4age) turbo project to play with while I do some things to the mitsus. Amazing little motors, but I still prefer the 2L.
I'm not g o d , but to answer your question. Yes lol
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Fri, 28 January 2005 23:31

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good to see some different things being done
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Location: Adelaide, SA
Registered: May 2002
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Fri, 28 January 2005 23:49

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Nice choice of turbo!
terrible choice of motor
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Sat, 29 January 2005 01:08

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Used to own a Starion, have nothing but loathing for that engine. My 1G shits on it from a great height in all respects
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Location: Hobart, Tas
Registered: May 2002
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Sat, 29 January 2005 13:56

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More food for thought: the 4cly mitsu engine in the Eclipse etc (forget the name - 4GF3 or something???) is supposed to bolt up to an R-series bellhousing with minimal mods.
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Location: u.s.a. south
Registered: April 2004
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Sat, 29 January 2005 16:40

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4g63 dohc 2L found in the eclipse (dsm) = vr4 for u guys = early evos
I know of a couple rwd staz and rollas running around with w58 gearboxes behind them.
all the negative remarks are purely emotional, as expected. If anybody typed a 10page essay on why a 4g is a poor powerplant choice for a rolla, it wouldn't contain one 'sensible' reason. Who has tried it ?
I've had absolutely no problems with mitsu motors.. on top of the benefits listed above. Parts cheaper than the toyotas too.
Even the sohc is capable of 300hp to the threads on a t4 sized compressor @15psi - right there with the 'best of todays' 2Ls. Torque on the sohc higher than hp also.
The dohc has put every other 4 on the trailer at the drags.
I can show a few 'street' 2.4L putting down over 500ft-lbs tq to the wheels, backed up by 10s ETs in heavy arse cars!.. incredible output from such a 'small' package, slightly bigger than a 4ag.
Yeah, it must be a terrible choice, eh.
At the other extreme, it took the 'mighty' 2jz to put the mitsu 4s 'in their place'(barely), in import drag racing... all the other manuf 4 cyl efforts were in the stands spectating. Guess who put 'em there ?
Mitsu turbos are good..... motors are too.
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Location: Ebbw Vale, Qld
Registered: January 2004
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Thu, 03 February 2005 05:22

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So anyways.............
How good would it go on my 1G-GTE??
Aiming for around 180rwkw (with other mods of course)
will it support this power output?
Thanks all
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Location: Ebbw Vale, Qld
Registered: January 2004
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Thu, 03 February 2005 05:40

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Sorry to keep askin stuff but how would I go setting up the oil lines etc as the td05 is oil cooled whereas the ct12s are water cooled?
Theres just someone who has offered my one and I wanna consider my options
thanks
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Location: Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Thu, 03 February 2005 05:47

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The ct12 are suprisingly both water and oil cooled. Hence, you have both oil and water lines going to your turbo. Make em fit as you see fit.
You can't have a turbo that isn't oil cooled, how would you lubricate the shaft and bearings?
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Location: Ebbw Vale, Qld
Registered: January 2004
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Thu, 03 February 2005 05:54

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I knew u had to have oil to lube the bearings but i didn't think that meant 'oil cooled' Anyhoo showing my ignorance...
thanks 4 the advice
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Location: Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: TD05 16G on 1G-GTE
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Thu, 03 February 2005 05:57
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what you will need to do though if your going single turbo is converge your TWIN water lines and your TWIN oil lines into one. The oil isn't too hard but you need to customize the oil return. THe water is fairly easy, just be clever with your hoses.
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