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Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 05:41
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It seems as though this conversion would be quite simple to perform using a 22 spline gearbox and diff... Why are there little or no 4AGE celica's around???
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 05:44
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Because a 1g is equally easy, and buckets more fun.
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 05:52
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Care to divulge further???
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 05:55
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xactly what you wanna know?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 05:59
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A 2T-GEU is cheaper, easier and 95% as good as a 4A-GE. Good 2T-GEU's are getting harder to find so 4A-GE conversions may become more popular, but it's still a lot of effort compared to the results (ie a 4A-GE in a TA22 isn't exactly a rocketship).
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 06:02
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in a mechanical point of view, What has to be altered/changed???
What gearbox to use?
What gearbox and engine mounts to use?
What crossmember to use?
What diff to use?
What tailshaft to use?
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 06:05
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| Norbie wrote on Mon, 31 January 2005 16:59 |
A 2T-GEU is cheaper, easier and 95% as good as a 4A-GE. Good 2T-GEU's are getting harder to find so 4A-GE conversions may become more popular, but it's still a lot of effort compared to the results (ie a 4A-GE in a TA22 isn't exactly a rocketship).
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SO you think a G series is the way to go also???
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 06:08
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A) Get and RA23, they fit easier.
You need a W58 gearbox instead of a W50
The standard gearbox mount fits with a little modification (there's about a hundred docos out there on how to do it)
The cross member mounts don't need to be changed, you just need to make sure you get the right engine side mounts
You can use the standard tailshaft and diff, they all fit.
(until you break them like I do, but you have to be extreme).
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 06:12
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THanks, its just a matter of deciding what I want out of the car... and the financial aspects...
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 06:13
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True,
But let's face it, no engine conversion is cheap.
But a mate of mine did the 1g-gte conversion into an RA23, AND got it engineered for a quick reasonable price.
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 06:19
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WHat about a 4AGZE??? wouldnt that be allright???
What do 22's 23's and 28's all weigh???
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 07:55
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4A-GZE will go "alright", but not great. 1G-GTE will go in with the same amount of effort and will perform much better.
TA22: approx 950kg
RA23/28: approx 1080kg
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: Changing a TA22/23 to 4AGE or 4AGZE
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Mon, 31 January 2005 10:57
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if you like corners a 4agze would be better and good condition ones can make upwards of 200kw atw on standard internals.
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