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boudan
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Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 10:22 Go to next message
Looking to add spacer behind brake pads. 4 piston caliper designed for 20mm disc spaced to suit 12mm disc.

Looking for a general yes / no before further investigation.

Thanks.

[Updated on: Mon, 31 January 2005 10:22]

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styler
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message

yeah interesting one...

i reckon it would need to be permanantly modified,
you wouldnt be able to use a loose spacer in case
it fell out, not that you would be doing that lol
and it probably would also have to accept standard
brake pads for the caliper, so modifying the pad -
having a spacer attached wouldnt be allowed.
the caliper would have to be modified to
suit everthing else.

hang on <goes to look for qld engineers manual>
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boudan wrote on Mon, 31 January 2005 20:52

Looking to add spacer behind brake pads. 4 piston caliper designed for 20mm disc spaced to suit 12mm disc.

Looking for a general yes / no before further investigation.

Thanks.


That 4mm per side and starting to stretch it a bit. I doubt and engineer would pass it if they knew about it.

Can't you get a bnetter disc to suit and do it properly ?
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Depending on the caliper you are using its easy.
Take the RX7 calipers for example. All you have to do is trace out the pad backing plate on some 4mm steel plate, drill some holes in it and fit it like a standard pad. Simple and has been done a billion times.
But as I said it depends on the caliper.
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message

brake system substitution ( design ) LG1

caliper brackets :

shall be designed to take all forces imposed
during braking - bending, mounting

mounted using original backing plate/mounting points

tapped holes must have an depth at least equal to
width

brake system substitution ( modification ) LG2

proper workmanship
welding good
fasteners correct

well thats a rough idea of it all, it does go into
more detail and a few checklist forms for the mods
so meh i dunno


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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message

What about piston travel issue's...

by adding the spacer your effectively asking the piston to travel a distance further than original, correct?

Im not sure on distance the piston travels *scratches chin*
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No. By adding the spacer, your making the piston travel the same as it would when using the standard rotor. Think about it.
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
***EDIT*** due to not knowing what
the hell im going on about ***EDIT*** Very Happy

Cheers

Nathan

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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that's total travel of piston not travel used in a normal braking event

hydraulic piston in brakes will only retract to point where pads are not forced against disc
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Mon, 31 January 2005 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What rotor are you using?

There is usually a vented version of your solid disc.

Plus, your solid disc is gonna heat up VERY quickly with 4spot brakes when you stand on it.

Get a better disc.
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Tue, 01 February 2005 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
heating would be my biggest concern a 12mm disc is tiny. any half 4spot caliper will cook it in no time. surely you can find a better rotor. even if it is too larger diameter wise and get it milled down ?
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Tue, 01 February 2005 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message

T'was just a theorectical - gotta learn somehow.

I am actually using a 20mm vented and slotted disc

Thanks for the help Smile !
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Tue, 01 February 2005 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cool 1 is dead correct with this. The engineer didn't even bat an eyelid at the spacers on mine. I would rather a spacer pad than to have the pistons pop out when the brake pad is worn.

I did mine with pieces of 3mm mild steel sheet (1 each side) for my HiLux 4 spotters (using 22mm disc instead of the 28mm rotors) and as stated above I copied the anti-squeal plate and made them complete with tabs that assist with the location on the back of the pad.
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Tue, 01 February 2005 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message

a secure spacer seems like the easiest and
simplest mod to make it all work...
see what anyone else has to say?
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Re: Legalities: spacer behind brake pad Wed, 02 February 2005 23:46 Go to previous message
I made these "shims" to try out a 22mm disc in a Z32 front caliper.
http://www.ilkt.com/celicasupra/shims.jpg
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