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January 2005
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Ke20 Engine Options.
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Mon, 31 January 2005 11:01
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Hey,
I'm looking for some advice on engine conversions for my KE20.
My ideas are, a 12a or a 4AG, the KE10 with a turbo 5k in the latest issue of zoom looks cool too.... I have also thought of using a giant rubber band.
I would rather not use Any of the T series engines.
I'd like some feedback from anyone who has done any of these conversions or has any other Ideas.
Thanks
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May 2002
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Location:
wangaratta
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May 2004
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Mon, 31 January 2005 23:37
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out of curiosity, why is it that you dont want to use any T series engines???
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Location:
Castlemaine Vic
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November 2002
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Location:
wodonga
Registered:
January 2005
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 Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Tue, 01 February 2005 06:24
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Nice man, um did you have to get an engineers certificate to get those seats in? and is the engine a tight fit? and whats it like performance wise? commie killer?
i am trying to get around 200kw@ the wheels to beat my friends soon to be supercharged 202 in his VC, it has some mild head work as well. but i am still undicided on wether to make a tuff as n/a banger or a turbo buger, what do you reckon?
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Location:
wodonga
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January 2005
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 Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Tue, 01 February 2005 07:07
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hey boxh34d, i just think they are a bit out-dated, and if i was going to go somthing that old i would just do a turbo 5k setup so i don't have to change mounts or anything. any other idea's? and thanks for the feed back 
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Tue, 01 February 2005 10:47
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| kebluey wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 17:24 |
i am trying to get around 200kw@ the wheels to beat my friends soon to be supercharged 202 in his VC, it has some mild head work as well. but i am still undicided on wether to make a tuff as n/a banger or a turbo buger, what do you reckon?
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NA 1.6 will be very nippy in your KE20.
200rwkw will be slow in your KE20... you will not get enough traction to use it... you would be better off going for a fat midrange torque motor, rather than a peaky one...
and by limiting the boost,. to sayy.. 6 or 8psi, you will have more than enough power and still be faster than most cars...
T motors are heavy, compared to K or A series..
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Location:
wodonga
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January 2005
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Tue, 01 February 2005 11:20
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Yeah thats where i was heading as well, just tuff n/a, but i sort of want boost, and do you know where i could get a crossmember for a 4age? and i heard somewhere that T50 gearboxes go right into ke20's is that true? 
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Location:
Castlemaine Vic
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November 2002
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Tue, 01 February 2005 11:49
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If your talking to me, yes, the seats are engineerable (will have paper work/mode plate march 9th for motor and seats.
as for a tight fit, no, it fits nice.
performance wise, its great, im happy with it, goes great, loves to rev and hit the limiter 1/2/3 and forth.
T50 fits no worries, and using the exsiting gbox xmember.
and also, i dont think your gonna find a 4age xmember, your going to have to make, modify one. im using Vc 6cyl engine rubbers if thats any help.
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Location:
wodonga
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January 2005
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Tue, 01 February 2005 11:53
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Ohh awesome, my friend have 4, 202 engines, i think their is a site with a guy that sells the crossmembers, i'll let you know, as for handeling, i want it to handle almost, if not better than it goes, any tips?
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Location:
wodonga
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January 2005
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Tue, 01 February 2005 12:32
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Um also, just out f complete curiosity, how how would a 1UZFE converstion be? 
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Tue, 01 February 2005 18:28
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| kebluey wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 22:20 |
Yeah thats where i was heading as well, just tuff n/a, but i sort of want boost,
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well, you're going to have to decide some time.
1UZ? ahhh....umm..
how abotu you go and talk to an engineer. they will sort out a lot of questions for you.
Cya, Stewart
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Location:
Eastern Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Wed, 02 February 2005 07:23
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i once saw a KE20 running a crammed in 289 V8...
yeah like i told you kebluey, vicroads has an engineer that you can call and ask for advice.
considering you will only be on your p's when you get the ke going i reckon just toughen the 3k thats is already in the car, or get a 5k so you don't have to change mounts etc. 
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Location:
On your mum!
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May 2002
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Wed, 02 February 2005 08:00
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Turbo 4A GTE seems to fit what you want to do the most. The 12A will be more work than you may first think.
As for 200rwkw - why would you want to use the T50?
I managed to run 13.0 on my stock internal 3T with computer, boost and intercooler (standard injectors).
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Location:
wodonga
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January 2005
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Wed, 02 February 2005 09:06
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I want to use the T50 because apparently they're easier to get in and the bolt strait up to a 4AG and I have also heard they are pretty stong, My next door neibour used to use a T50 behind a heavily modded 186 in a circuit kingsy.
But i realise that if i have that much power i will need a W55
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Wed, 02 February 2005 09:10
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listen to Frontspinner.
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Location:
wodonga
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January 2005
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 Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Wed, 02 February 2005 09:57
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yeah i will, his my brother too, lol, i would'nt mind a tuff 3K till i get enough to 4ag it, i really want a 4age, but yeah, thanks for the help guys  
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Location:
wodonga
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January 2005
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Sun, 06 February 2005 23:09
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[\quote]200rwkw will be slow in your KE20... you will not get enough traction to use it... you would be better off going for a fat midrange torque motor, rather than a peaky one... [/quote]
what engine were you thinking? 
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Location:
nsw
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February 2005
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Sun, 13 February 2005 08:40
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hey i am thinkin about puttin a 12 rotor in my ke30....just wonderin if u have found any new info...eg will it be harder then i think
thanks
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Location:
wodonga
Registered:
January 2005
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 Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Sun, 13 February 2005 09:33
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Do you mean a 12A or a 12 rotor?
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Sun, 13 February 2005 09:41
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if a 12A is only just legal in NA form, then a 12rotor will have to be pretty small rotors 
why is it people always ask "will it be harder than what i think"
if you have to ask that, then the answer is most likely yes..
go and have a look at the engine mounts and transmission tunnels in rotary cars. you will answer most of your questions in 5 mins.
Cya, Stewart
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Location:
Melb
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May 2004
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Re: Ke20 Engine Options.
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Mon, 14 February 2005 07:27
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If you go 12a or 13b you can use the rt104 corona 4spd gearbox with an adapter plate to suit rx4 bellhousing.Im doing a s5 13bt conversion in my 1200 ute that came factory with the 3k. Ill let you know after the weekend how i went with putting the rotor in and making the mounts.With only a few mods like exhaust ,boost you'll have around 160rwkw. 700kg 
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