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HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Sat, 26 October 2002 13:28
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I'm don't think I've heard anyone use a HKS super AFR on this forum but it essentially performs the same role as the apexi safc.
Here is a link to the HKS item:
http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=811
Has anyone got experience with this, can you give any feedback?
It says on the site that it offers 11 incremental settings of adjustment and + or - 50% fuel. I was told the Apexi item only offers 8 points of adjustment.
If this was the case the HKS AFR should offer better tuning capacity, right?
Other than that it doesn't have the cool display and doesn't look as sweet, but I may be able to get one for arround the $300 mark.
What do you think?
Oh yeah, this is for use on a 1jz
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I supported Toymods
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Perth WA
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May 2002
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Re: HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Sun, 27 October 2002 02:00
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The description doesn't mention if it has a high/low thhrottle setting. With the S-AFC, you can have two different maps for high throttle (open loop) and low throttle (closed loop - but the toyota computer will probably adjust back to factory according to the O2 sensor) = 16 points.
The HKS model is more subtle and the S-AFC is more ricey/big computer display/theft risk.
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Perth WA
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May 2002
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Re: HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Sun, 27 October 2002 02:06
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The description doesn't mention if it has a high/low thhrottle setting. With the S-AFC, you can have two different maps for high throttle (open loop) and low throttle (closed loope - but the toyota computer will probably adjust back to factory according to the O2 sensor) = 16 points.
Is there a big cost difference?
The HKS model is more subtle and the S-AFC is more ricey/big computer display/theft risk.
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Re: HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Sun, 27 October 2002 02:16
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I downloaded the manual of the HKS one(I can email a copy to anyone if they want, acrobat format).
And it has a lot of information. It has a seperate adjustment for idle control between 650rpm and 1500rpm which are independent of the 11 incremental settings between 650rpm and 8000rpm.
it also has a bit about response adjustment which enables changes of the engines initial throttle response between 650 and 5000rpm. It doesn't actually state this as closed loop but thats what it sounds like to me.
Anyone else have an opinion/more info as I have 2 days to decide whether to buy this or not?
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I supported Toymods
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Perth WA
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May 2002
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Re: HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Sun, 27 October 2002 02:28
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Seems like at the price, unless you can get a S-AFC for less than the $700 retail, it seems the goods. HKS don't muck around I guess - it must work OK.
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Southern Sydney
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Re: HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Sun, 27 October 2002 04:23
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well I can get the HKS item for around $310. This seems like a pretty good deal, i can probably sell it for more if I don't like it. 
There is also an APEXi SAFC for sale that I know of for $480. If it doesn't sell in the next week I may be able to talk him down.
I'm not sure which way to go, but I think they will both do the same job, installation looks pretty simple on both, the only plus I can see to the Apexi one is the sweet display.
What would you guys do in my position.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth WA
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May 2002
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Re: HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Sun, 27 October 2002 09:29
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I got the S-AFC, but only for aesthetic reasons. If that was the price difference, I might take the HKS. The Apexi however has other gauge features like RPM / boost (off factory MAP sensor) and throttle position - that is if you need to display these things.
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Southern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Mon, 28 October 2002 08:19
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Crisis over. The HKS SAFR has jumped to $460 which is only $20 cheaper than the Apexi SAFC.
As I know first hand that the Apexi does what I want (and looks cool too  ) I will buy it.
Thanks for you help though 
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Re: HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Mon, 28 October 2002 09:27
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Are you getting a new S-AFC for $480 or bidding for the one on Ebay ?
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May 2002
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Re: HKS Super AFR vs APEXi Super AFC
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Mon, 28 October 2002 11:50
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remedy i like hks one is at a cool price, but mine looks sooo much cooler hey???
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