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L4AGZE
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Cam angle sensor 4AGZE Fri, 04 February 2005 13:01 Go to next message
Hi everyone,

Just trying to get some info on the above as not getting a signal from the Cam angle sensor.

Ive done some searches and found that there are two types of CAS, magnetic reluctor and hall effect. How do you know which is which? I have a AE92 4AGZE with MAP sensor.

Also i think the wiring for a magnetic one is as follows:

RED: Trigger (pickup for 24 tooth wheel)

GREEN: Home pickup (TDC #1)

YELLOW: Home pickup (TDC #4)

WHITE: Common earth for pickups

As it has two pickups does this mean it calculates on half cycles or is there a wasted spark?

Any suggestions as to how to check if the unit is ok as i do know they can fail due to the air seal? going on them.


Thanks in advance
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TE72_Turbo
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Re: Cam angle sensor 4AGZE Fri, 04 February 2005 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
They are magnetic reluctor.

Your wiring is correct.

They do run a wasted spark. I'm not certain what the factory computer uses the TDC #4 for, sequential injection perhaps? I thought you could still do that with only one home trigger though. Confused
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Anthony Kellam
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Re: Cam angle sensor 4AGZE Fri, 04 February 2005 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message

Theres a few reasons for that. For instance, twice as many "resets" (homes) per cycle means less worst case cranking before firing. Helps to sell cars Wink

As 1 and 4 are fired from the same ignition channel it doesnt matter which reset it is. Naturally you could do the same with two teeth on the top wheel but by this way you have same effect wilst maintaining exact engine position (handy for when they went to sequential injection/discrete ignition later).
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L4AGZE
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Re: Cam angle sensor 4AGZE Sat, 05 February 2005 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message

Thanks guys, TE72 I think it was from one of yourr posts that I got the wiring diagram.

So does anyone know how to get a signal from the sensor?
How can you check if the sensor needs replacing?

Thanks.
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mrshin
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Re: Cam angle sensor 4AGZE Sat, 05 February 2005 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
One way is to hook it up to a CRO and spin it with a drill, lathe, etc. and have a look at the signal...
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L4AGZE
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Re: Cam angle sensor 4AGZE Sat, 05 February 2005 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message

what do you mean by CRO ?

Thanks
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shinybluesteel
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Re: Cam angle sensor 4AGZE Sat, 05 February 2005 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cathode Ray Oscilliscope

screeny thing that shows waveforms
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L4AGZE
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Re: Cam angle sensor 4AGZE Sat, 05 February 2005 16:36 Go to previous message


Of course not good with abbreviations!! Confused

Thanks!
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