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S.E suberbs, Vic
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phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Fri, 04 February 2005 16:08
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I would like to hear from people who have played with a phantom grip in their diffs to see what their experiences are. Looks like a peice of crap to me but you never know.
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Sat, 05 February 2005 00:49
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WTF is a "phantom grip"???
I need to know more!
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Newcastle, Hunter Valley
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January 2004
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Sat, 05 February 2005 01:06
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From what Sam_Q says, i think its an addictive for LSD diffs that are slipping.(just pulling this outta my a$$ though)
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Newcastle, Hunter Valley
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January 2004
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Location:
S.E suberbs, Vic
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December 2003
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Sat, 05 February 2005 01:17
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yes that's the sales slogan, thanks Alex.
Basicly it's a crude mechinism that fits onto the shaft that holds the spider gears in place of a diff. It seems to be 2 blocks of metal that have 4 high compression springs pushing them apart. These put pressure on the spider gears and prevent them from slipping as much. I have been told that about a 30% lockup is acheived. It sounds like a load of crap to me but I am curious who has tried it.
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Newcastle, Hunter Valley
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January 2004
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Sat, 05 February 2005 01:27
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sounds like its up there with the hyclone and electric SC BS! 
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Sat, 05 February 2005 05:22
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don't forget Brocky's "POLARISER" 
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Brisbane
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July 2004
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Sat, 05 February 2005 10:53
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dont knock the polariser! I have it on good advice Bertram had one in his winged keel. 
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Sat, 05 February 2005 22:04
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Wasnt the polariser one of the many reasons why holen HDT "brocky" parted, that and the fact he wanted to use IRS rear end.
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Toymods Vice President
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Sun, 06 February 2005 23:41
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A few of the MR2 guys in the US have tried the phantom grip. I believe they have also all tried the "tranny rebuild" since then. The thing just uses friction to put pressure on the spider gears and ends up pumping metal shavings through the diff.
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timaru NZ
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January 2004
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 10:53
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before you bag the whole concept, try doing a bit of imformed reading/research.
these units DO work. they are not as good as a decent LSD , but are also well off the price of one.
Toymods » Tech & Conversions » 86: Alternatives to T-series rear-end for LSD & discs?
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S.E suberbs, Vic
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December 2003
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 11:25
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yes I am familiar with that thread fangsport however I dont beleive that someone said they had actually tried it
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Gympie Qld
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December 2004
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 11:38
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Here's something I found when searching about it.
After taking the time (or paying someone) to remove the trans, open it up, modify the diff, reinstall the trans, blow up the diff, try to find a new one hoping that chunks of metal did not ruin the rest of the trans, opening it up again and removing the bad diff and reinstalling a new diff, and reinstalling the trans, the price of the quaife is more than worth it. Did I also mention aligning the car every time you remove the subframe?
And this is considered the best case scenario. Worst case is it ruins your entire trans, while leaving you stranded in some ghetto.
Was some pretty nasty photos as well but I don't know how to post pictures into this forum.
cars were some Yank Ford FWD's I think but they also commented that they seemed to work Ok in some other models.
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S.E suberbs, Vic
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December 2003
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Re: phantom grip: who has tried it?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 11:49
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sounds right to me Fester. Although I asked who tried it I never at any point I wanted to use it. My engeneering sense says that using a metal to metal contact for a source of friction is fundametally flawed, let alone on the end of a spider gear that has such a tiny surface area. I was curious if anyone actually went ahead with it. Whats really funny is that apparently this device is made from mild steel!! imagine the effects of this thing rubbing against the super hard spiders, it would be demolished. So hold on now that I think about it that's how it works, it is of a mild steel so it causes resistance by tottaly mincing itself, ingenious!
So guys lets put this device on the shelf next to the Turbo-zet as the nice try section and let this thing go, case closed!
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Ireland
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May 2002
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