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sunny coast, qld
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 02:31
 
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| gigante wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 13:17 |
hey guys and girls....
im interested in both the mz20 soarer and the jza70 supra, both in manual, and if you could tell me the differences between them.
i like the jza70 supra because of the 1jz engine, but i also like the shape of the soarer..
ive searched google to find some info about the mz20 soarer but couldnt find much..
comparing these two cars tell me which one you would think would be the better everyday street cruzer and street racer.
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JZA70 is faster stock. I think it would be easier to get a manual JZA70 than a manual MZ20. I have never been in a JZA70 but I used to have a gz20 and the interior is really nice in them and from what I have read the MZ20 is a bit better.
If you can get a BHG 7m for cheap, I would get one and do the MHG thing. Otherwise, I would be leaning towards a jza70.
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Central Coast
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May 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 02:43
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In stock form, the only MZ20's that came out in manual are the Aero top ones (rare). As stated above, the JZA70 is going to be quicker, handle better, better brakes etc The MZ20 is a luxobarge, you are comparing a car that is built for luxurious, quiet, smooth and that is easy to drive/cruise in. The Supra is more designed with performance in mind (except they always seem to forget that performance cars aren't meant to weigh so friggen much) it would be less smooth, quiet and easy to drive - by that I mean, more harsh suspension etc.
Both are excellent cars, I have never owned a Supra, but I have owned a MZ20 and they are beautiful cars, but can seriously bight you in the bum with the whole BHG thing - even if you do go the MHG. I did MHG, ARP studs etc by the book EXCEPT for decking the block, and it still gave me grief.
Hope that helps!
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 02:49
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thanks for the quick replys!!
the jza70 supra are pritty hard to come across in melb, havent seen one in the trading post or carsales or any of those site for sale in a while...
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Ballarat, Vic.
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September 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 02:58
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^^^^supra 
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Sydney
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June 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 05:00
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Get an MZ20 or GZ20 and chuck in a 1JZ  Best of both worlds 
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 10:49
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yeah that was my next question lolz
but it would cost a fair bit to drop in the engine when instead i could be spending the money on the jza70 with the factory 1jz there.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 11:46
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if the 1jz is just a bolt in engine, how much off the top of your head do u think a work shop will charge to do the transplant?
i wouldnt trust myself with a job that big, luck of experience... 
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 12:32
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probably about 2k labour id assume
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 15:16
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I think MZ21s are HOT, that'd be my next car if i could afford one. I'd buy one of them over a JZA70 ( and thats coming from someone owning essentially that car)
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Location:
Adelaide
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October 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 09 February 2005 22:04
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| rvrolla wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 13:43 |
In stock form, the only MZ20's that came out in manual are the Aero top ones (rare).
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There wasnt an aerotop in the MZ20 range there is the aerocabin which is an electric hardtop convertable style. There was only 500 built in 1989 and as far as Im aware they are all 7mgte autos. The aerotop was used in the supras and is a bit like a t-top without the bit in the middle.
fell free to correct me but im pretty sure that only the the gz20 and the mz20 GT had a manual model. the mz20/21 GT LTD were all autos as were the aerocabins.
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Ballarat, Vic.
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September 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 10 February 2005 02:52
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aerocabin soarers were all manuals
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 10 February 2005 05:01
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| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 13:32 |
probably about 2k labour id assume
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if its that cheep i would really consider doing it!!!
its just the time it takes that shits me.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 10 February 2005 05:31
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| gigante wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 16:01 |
| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 13:32 |
probably about 2k labour id assume
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if its that cheep i would really consider doing it!!!
its just the time it takes that shits me.
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id really consider doing it yourself
its all completely bolt in, its not like you need to fabricate anything
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 10 February 2005 10:19
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i dont think i could manage doin it myself because lack of experience...
i wouldnt know where to start to pull the engine out..
i guess if i tryed doing it myself i would learn a thing or two..
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Adelaide
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October 2002
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 11 February 2005 07:18
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has anyone on the forums done a 1jz into a mz20 engine transplant?!?
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Bunbury, W.A.
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Sat, 12 February 2005 10:45
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I have now owned both cars and although I did like the JZA70.
I just love the boxy but sleek shape of the soarer.
My car does have a 1JZ in it aswell, I bought the car
as is and the person who aparrently built it is on here.
His name is "JAZE", have a talk to him if you are serious.
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Sat, 12 February 2005 11:32
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thanks for that man!!
what are the differences between the two cars driveing style?!?
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Bunbury, W.A.
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 13 February 2005 02:46
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Well they are very similar inside, the soarer has coilovers fitted and a bit more power than my supra, so there was no real comparison. The supra was a stock "R type" so it had the bilstein suspension, so therefore it was fairly stiff ride from the fatcory.
It just lacked what my soarer has. I do miss her though.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 13 February 2005 03:55
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ahh, jazes soarer
twin rb25 turbo's or something?
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Location:
Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 13 February 2005 09:51
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| mz21_shiznac wrote on Sun, 13 February 2005 03:46 |
Well they are very similar inside, the soarer has coilovers fitted and a bit more power than my supra, so there was no real comparison. The supra was a stock "R type" so it had the bilstein suspension, so therefore it was fairly stiff ride from the fatcory.
It just lacked what my soarer has. I do miss her though.
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sounds good, i prefer the supras interior over the soarer...
but thats just me...
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Canberra
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September 2003
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 13 February 2005 11:05
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Soarer
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Central Coast
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Canberra
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 13 February 2005 11:42
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Aero-top and aero-cabin are completely different beasts 
The aero-cabins were all Autos , you could get the 5 speed in the GTL also 
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Adelaide
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October 2002
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Central Coast
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 00:46
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Whoa, shit! I'll know to never make a mistake around here again!
Fuck!
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 00:59
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| rvrolla wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 11:46 |
Whoa, shit! I'll know to never make a mistake around here again!
Fuck!
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next time, they wont only prove you wrong... but spank you aswell
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 02:08
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Does the MZ21 Soarer GT 3.0 have a LSD?
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 02:21
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i beleive it was an option, not std
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 06:52
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the replys are interesting keep em coming!!!
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 08:16
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| gigante wrote on Fri, 11 February 2005 17:48 |
has anyone on the forums done a 1jz into a mz20 engine transplant?!?
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Yes, me!
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 08:18
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| Danish wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 19:16 |
| gigante wrote on Fri, 11 February 2005 17:48 |
has anyone on the forums done a 1jz into a mz20 engine transplant?!?
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Yes, me!
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he said mz20, go back to ur corner
im jokin hehe
(and yes i know they are 90% same car bar engine and a few small things..)
im just bein a dick
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 11:06
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| Danish wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 09:16 |
| gigante wrote on Fri, 11 February 2005 17:48 |
has anyone on the forums done a 1jz into a mz20 engine transplant?!?
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Yes, me!
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oh yeah i saw your car in the for sale section...
did you do the trasnplant yourself or was it done by a workshop?!?
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 12:06
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It was done in a workshop.
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I supported Toymods
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Adelaide
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July 2004
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 14 February 2005 12:59
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i should have a completed one out on the track in 4 weeks
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 15 February 2005 04:00
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| Danish wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 13:06 |
It was done in a workshop.
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how much they charge to drop it in?!?
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 15 February 2005 18:41
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Too much!
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Bunbury, W.A.
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 15 February 2005 23:11
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Geez, looks like the Z20 and 1J are getting common.
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Adelaide
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July 2004
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 16 February 2005 01:52
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| mz21_shiznac wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 09:41 |
Geez, looks like the Z20 and 1J are getting common.
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COMMONLY FANTASTIC
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 16 February 2005 04:25
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Pfft as if! There's like 2 in Australia.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 16 February 2005 05:03
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| Danish wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 15:25 |
Pfft as if! There's like 2 in Australia.
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i know of about 4.. and thats without actually thinking.
id say theres at least 15-20
try finda heap of 1jz mz10's though
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ACT
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March 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 01 March 2005 05:37
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| Clown wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 13:58 |
^^^^supra
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heeheehee, i have a MZ20 landing today with a 1j and T78..... so cant wait to drive it !!!! 
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 01 March 2005 05:55
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i saw something like that on j-spec....
can i see some pics pritty please
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ACT
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March 2005
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 01 March 2005 06:19
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| chosen1 wrote on Tue, 01 March 2005 16:37 |
| Clown wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 13:58 |
^^^^supra
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heeheehee, i have a MZ20 landing today with a 1j and T78..... so cant wait to drive it !!!!
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good luck registering that!
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ACT
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March 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 01 March 2005 21:29
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registering it shouldnt be a problem.. its being fully engineered in a couple days.
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Canberra
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September 2003
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 01 March 2005 22:50
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Ohhhh the one J-spec had access to , If you want a detailed mechanic report and heaps of pics email me , although the car has alot of rust 
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registering it shouldnt be a problem.. its being fully engineered in a couple days.
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Perth, WA
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June 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 10 March 2005 00:07
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ive got a 3.0gt and the only thing that i felt was missing was a manual box.. so ive popped one in should be ready anyday now...
so excited!*#@&#
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Bunbury, W.A.
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 10 March 2005 10:26
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It's alot better you will be so happy man.
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 10 March 2005 12:11
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Im really happy with my car - jza70 , couldnt recommend it enough to anyone whos thinking of getting one there a really awesome car - dont get me wrong i love the soarer too .. i almost bought one , i just prefer the 1jz.
| waxE wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 08:07 |
ive got a 3.0gt and the only thing that i felt was missing was a manual box.. so ive popped one in should be ready anyday now...
so excited!*#@&#
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aww im jealous , i want manual in my jza70 !
oh waxe , just out of interest where did you get the conversion done? (nice to see you decided to keep it!)
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 10 March 2005 12:24
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thanks for the posts guys there good as!!!
im leaning towards the jza70 just hope when its time to buy i can find a nice manual 1jz powered.
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Perth, WA
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June 2002
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Re: MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 17 March 2005 03:04
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hmmm yeah my auto is slipping a bit , not sure whether to get another auto or just go all out on manual , id really like to make it manual though ... but its a bitch that it ends up costing about 3-4k
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MZ20 Soarer 3.0 GT vs JZA70 Supra 2.5 TT
