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no_tofu_speed
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GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Thu, 10 February 2005 18:58 Go to next message
I heard that in a GT-R u can remove a fuse to make it run RWD, can u do this to a GT4 too? Does it create any permanent damage doing this, removing fuse/running as a RWD time to time?

[Updated on: Thu, 10 February 2005 19:01]

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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Thu, 10 February 2005 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hell no.

The GT4 is permanent AWD and doesn't have that funky torque split in the middle like the GTR's.

No crazy drifting for you.
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Thu, 10 February 2005 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
there is however a lever on the gearbox (CS gearboxs only) that can either select AWD, RWD or FWD but its only for use in the garage for diagnostic purposes and the manual does not reccomend driving in any mode other than AWD for any amount of time.

There is a previous thread on here that explores this and has a screen dump of the procedure from the GT4 manual but couldnt be bothered searching as its a mute point if it cant be driven with, but to answer your question yes there is an option, though its not a fuse, more like a mechanical lever.
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Fri, 11 February 2005 00:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
do the GT4's just hav an unlocked centre diff? is there an Lsd in there?
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Fri, 11 February 2005 02:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Depends, I heard that the early '86 model had a locked centre diff that you generally left unlocked (in FWD) for normal driving, but after that all GT4s have some form of LSD in the centre (usually viscous).
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Fri, 11 February 2005 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BTW, that lever has 3 modes.

1)Normal Viscour Coupling
2)Open Vidcous Coupling
3)Lock FWD only

No rwd option at all.
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Fri, 11 February 2005 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
and if you run in fwd only hard it will shatter drive shafts, not recommended
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Fri, 11 February 2005 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so they were selectable? they weren't just paermanent all wheel drive. and btw if u wanted to make a rear wheel drive u could just take out the front shaft and have the centre diff locked up all the time.
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Fri, 11 February 2005 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
might sound stupid, but could you remove the driveshafts, take the bell off the outer end and put it in the wheels and plug up the gearbox? or just put the bells in the gearbox also? effectively just removing the shafts?
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Fri, 11 February 2005 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EVOSTi wrote on Fri, 11 February 2005 18:08

might sound stupid, but could you remove the driveshafts, take the bell off the outer end and put it in the wheels and plug up the gearbox? or just put the bells in the gearbox also? effectively just removing the shafts?



It would work in theory, but you still ahve the problem of 50% of the torque being thrown at the front driveshafts, which are no longer there.

Also the centre diff doesn't like huge differences in torque transfer, and will 'blow up' if you don't load it evenly.

Why do you want RWD anyways. No-one has asked this yet.
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Sat, 12 February 2005 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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might sound stupid, but could you remove the driveshafts, take the bell off the outer end and put it in the wheels and plug up the gearbox? or just put the bells in the gearbox also? effectively just removing the shafts?
That definitely won't work - the only way to make this work is to remove any play in the centre diff (ie locking it up) and removing the front driveshafts.

But once you've drive AWD there's no need to go back to RWD...besides you can drift AWD no problems if you have commitment (and maybe a bit more than the standard torque)
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Sat, 12 February 2005 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
turbocaldina mmm unless u have a lot of power 450-500+hp the drive shafts ain't going to shatter, remember the mr2 turbo its the same as a gt4 but rwd same drive shafts and also people use the gt4 drive shafts for the 3sgte swap and I can't say that i've seen anyone mention them shattering. I'm using them at the moment too.

Unless your talking about the drive shaft running to the rear diff Shocked
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Sun, 13 February 2005 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes i know what you mean but i have seen some one on the dyno shatter one when it was in the front wheel drive mode. the shafts are very very strong as they use them in the ultima GTR's and they put out around 500hp.

FWDboy commitment? dont you mean balls Laughing i used to drift the wagon but its a lot harder then it seems

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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Sun, 13 February 2005 01:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don't know why anyone would want 2WD on a GT-Four...

3sfe wrote on Sun, 13 February 2005 10:20

turbocaldina mmm unless u have a lot of power 450-500+hp the drive shafts ain't going to shatter, remember the mr2 turbo its the same as a gt4 but rwd same drive shafts and also people use the gt4 drive shafts for the 3sgte swap and I can't say that i've seen anyone mention them shattering. I'm using them at the moment too.

Unless your talking about the drive shaft running to the rear diff Shocked


I replaced my driveshafts from the stock RAV4 to the GT-Four, and I gotta say the difference is remarkable. The GT-Four shaft is about ¼" longer than the RAV4's on either side, which eliminates the need to use a spacer near the seal on the gearbox side. You gotta be pulling some REAL serious ponies to snap these bitches...

http://216.69.129.37/rav4oz/PublicDownloads/andrew/Driveshafts/comparo.jpg

http://216.69.129.37/rav4oz/PublicDownloads/andrew/Driveshafts/sizediff.jpg

GT-Four shaft on the left
RAV4 shaft on the right.
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Sun, 13 February 2005 07:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FWDboy commitment? dont you mean balls i used to drift the wagon but its a lot harder then it seems
No I save balls for when I'm doing something crazy Razz Getting a GT4 sideways/drifting just takes commitment Very Happy
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Sun, 13 February 2005 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
those gt4 shafts are fairly hefty. id be very proud of my motor if it destroyed them.

and yeah i didnt think the 'remove the shaft' idea would work, otherwise it would have been done long before Smile
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Mon, 14 February 2005 02:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I dunno, i drift my GT4 all the time....sometimes i don't seem to have any choice Smile
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Mon, 14 February 2005 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JustenGT4 wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 12:41

I dunno, i drift my GT4 all the time....sometimes i don't seem to have any choice Smile


It's not a real GT4 anymore though is it ?
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Mon, 14 February 2005 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aw i dunno looks like a GT4, goes like a decent GT4 should....just doesn't sound much like a GT4 anymore Wink
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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Mon, 14 February 2005 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JustenGT4 wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 12:46

Aw i dunno looks like a GT4, goes like a decent GT4 should....just doesn't sound much like a GT4 anymore Wink


There is somethiong wrong with the front wheels though. Can't quite pick it. I'll work it out eventually








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Re: GT4 (remove fuse = rwd)??? Mon, 14 February 2005 02:25 Go to previous message
JustenGT4 wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 13:11

I dunno, i drift my GT4 all the time....sometimes i don't seem to have any choice Smile


The UZ185CS GT2 doesnt count hehe Very Happy

When I get tuned up again I wouldnt mind givin you a run on the track someday!

Did those injectors reach you in time?? what were they 4 btw?
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