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draven
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Which is better?

Mon, 14 February 2005 05:12

ok, which will look hornier on my car (bearing in mind I will probably paint the centre of the OMs black)

These:

Or these:

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Nark
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 05:15

I've always loved the FRs on oldskool Toyotas. [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 05:16

oh, and anyone who's decent with photoshop (or ewvencrap) can feel free to chop them onto a ma61 [Report message to a moderator]

Jag7799
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 05:20

im voting the 2nd ones THOUGH id vote the 1st ones if the outside chromie part was black with silver insides [Report message to a moderator]

Farkurnell
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 05:34

The first one looks better. The second one looks too generic. Every man and his dog has 5 spoke wheels. My humble opinion of course. Cheers, Greg [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Which is better?

Mon, 14 February 2005 05:49

draven wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 16:16

oh, and anyone who's decent with photoshop (or ewvencrap) can feel free to chop them onto a ma61

Paul Pyyvaara had an MA61 with FR Simmons.
http://www.onthenet.com.au/~paulp/supra/
http://redlineau.com/web.php?mode=cars&view=1& amp;viewId=3

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kdogg
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 05:56

i'd say the top ones, only cos i want the bottom ones on my ke20 [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 06:16

I doubt OM's will fit over your brakes. I know they wouldn't on Glens car. Fitment of FR's is debatable too. I thought you were already getting custom rims? [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 06:39

of course they'll fit over my brakes - I just might have to sacrifice some dish I was going to. then I spoke to them today and because my offset requirements have changed (thanks to the skyline rotors) what htey had planned for me no longer works so I'm back up shit creek without a paddle, and my car has just been finished at the workshop! [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: Which is better?

Mon, 14 February 2005 06:43

draven wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 14:39

of course they'll fit over my brakes - I just might have to sacrifice some dish

I was under the impression that all simmons had the same centre, just different outers.

So no matter whether you have -10 offest, or +50 offset, you still only have 30mm for caliper clearance.

Unless you plan to use spacers.

At least, this was my understanding.

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Evan
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 06:44

Top ones with black centers [Report message to a moderator]

justcallmefrank
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 06:46

Depends what colour your car is going to be in the end and whether either will clear your brakes. As a rule though, I prefer the FR's. [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 06:45

hrm well, that could be homosexual I specifically mentioned that I'd need 38mm backspace to clear the calipers. Might have to call again tomorrow and speak to someone who knows what they're talking about if that is the case, I could be in trouble :\ [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: Which is better?

Mon, 14 February 2005 06:51

draven wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 14:45

hrm
well, that could be homosexual

I specifically mentioned that I'd need 38mm backspace to clear the calipers.

Might have to call again tomorrow and speak to someone who knows what they're talking about Razz

if that is the case, I could be in trouble :\

As I said, thats my understanding.
I could be wrong though.

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CrUZsida
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 06:53

Backspace is the wrong term anyway Greg. Backspace is from hub face to inner rim edge. You want from hub face to inner spoke edge. Look up the term backspace in Google. You might have to send Simmons a picture of what you need. [Report message to a moderator]

smt_007
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 06:55

I think 2 is too common, nice but common, the other ones you dont see around much specially on an old school Toy . [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 07:19

Apologies to those who's cars I've used, if you want me to remove them, PM me. [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 07:35

mmm well, I'll put my opinion on hold on the wheels till I call simmons and tell them exactly what I'm after [Report message to a moderator]

Evil_Foetus
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 07:37

OMs im getting charcoal ones on my car. hell yeah. accept no substitutes [Report message to a moderator]

smt_007
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 07:40

The thing with the 1z is they look good from 17" and onward, they dont look too good in 15,16. If your getting 16z get nO.2 . [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 08:14

well, I'm getting 17s I agree with farkunell on this one tho - while the FRs look nice, everyone has 5 spokes. OMs with painted centre might be the go assuming I can get them to clear my brakes [Report message to a moderator]

BlackSupra
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 08:19

Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Those pics above on the car are 17" FR's and 16" OM's. [Report message to a moderator]

Celia-Sue
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 08:25

In a rush - no time to read thread. BUT: black centred OM's RULE. And let me know what offset you go with - I too want black-centred OM's (prob 16x8) with skyline rotors and discs). Justin JZA61 [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: Which is better?

Mon, 14 February 2005 08:26

draven wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 16:14

I agree with farkunell on this one tho - while the FRs look nice, everyone has 5 spokes.

And everyone else has Mesh of some description.

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draven
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Re: Which is better?	Mon, 14 February 2005 08:27

there's just something about those FRs that dont look quite right on a ma61. maybe it's just me, but that's all that really matters in this case [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Which is better?	Tue, 15 February 2005 02:17

Greg, We have 7 different styles in 16", 17", 18" and 19" wheels. Wheels are made to order and caliper clearance can vary from zero to 60mm depending on style and vehicle specification. To get the offset you require the front wheels have 43mm clearance on brakes. Regards Simmons Wheel. booya! [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: Which is better?	Tue, 15 February 2005 02:19

Sweet, sounds like you only have to sacrifice 1/2-1" dish too. [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: Which is better?

Tue, 15 February 2005 02:23

draven wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 18:57

there's just something about those FRs that dont look quite right on a ma61.

maybe it's just me, but that's all that really matters in this case Cool

I agree.

I'd go for the OM's with a charcoal centre rather than black.

But it is your car, so GO man !!!!

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Celia-Sue
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Re: Which is better?

Tue, 15 February 2005 03:30

draven wrote on Tue, 15 February 2005 13:17

Greg,
To get the offset you require the front wheels have 43mm clearance on brakes.
booya!

Cool! So what width will they be?

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Re: Which is better?	Tue, 15 February 2005 03:32

17x8" and 17x9" [Report message to a moderator]

riceburna73
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Re: Which is better?	Tue, 15 February 2005 03:46

aslong as they have bulk dish they will look great,nothing worse than simmons with the center bit sitting flush with the chrome its like people who wear 80s clothing,it looks shit and shouldnt be done!! [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: Which is better?	Tue, 15 February 2005 07:46

the back will be UBER dish the front will have however much I can manage while clearting those bigarse brakes edit: oh yeah... BLING [Updated on: Tue, 15 February 2005 07:46] [Report message to a moderator]

Evil_Foetus
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Re: Which is better?	Wed, 16 February 2005 06:34

looking good, nice bling but as has been said, charcoal OMs, your car will be silver. yes, that's what you will do. [Report message to a moderator]

skellator
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Re: Which is better?	Wed, 16 February 2005 06:47

argh, im confused, like this --> ive had a few people say un-enclosed pod filters are illegal, but some say they're legal so draven, is your engine bay legal or not? im thinking of getting a pod filter myself, as my current filter is shithouse, so i need to know these things! [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: Which is better?

Wed, 16 February 2005 06:48

skellator wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 14:47

argh, im confused, like this -->

ive had a few people say un-enclosed pod filters are illegal, but some say they're legal

so draven, is your engine bay legal or not? im thinking of getting a pod filter myself, as my current filter is shithouse, so i need to know these things! Razz

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skellator
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Re: Which is better?

Wed, 16 February 2005 06:59

CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 17:48

skellator wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 14:47

argh, im confused, like this -->

yeah, maybe, but im not entirely serious about getting one yet
still, couldn't you have said if it was legal or not as well? i mean it's only one more word Twisted Evil

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Les
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Re: Which is better?	Wed, 16 February 2005 07:43

so how much draven ... how much is the quote ?? [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: Which is better?	Wed, 16 February 2005 07:50

Good question. My last quote for simmons was $600 per rim for 17x7, and $620 for 17x8. So I'd assume $650ish for 17x9. Will be interesting to see what Greg gets. [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: Which is better?	Wed, 16 February 2005 07:51

about that peewee right now my engine bay is not legal - I'm off to groove ryder on the weekend to get a box made up. [Report message to a moderator]

Les
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Re: Which is better?

Wed, 16 February 2005 08:14

CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 18:50

Good question.
My last quote for simmons was $600 per rim for 17x7, and $620 for 17x8.
So I'd assume $650ish for 17x9.

Will be interesting to see what Greg gets.

FOCK ........... rims worth more than car ..

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Re: Which is better?	Wed, 16 February 2005 10:25

for the info of all interested in simmons to go over big brakes: "Greg, Wheel has 43mm clearance from 164mm diameter out to approx 340mm. Wheel spoke then curves up slightly to meet rim mounting face" [Report message to a moderator]

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