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mx83 brake upgrade Tue, 15 February 2005 10:26 Go to next message
alright now today when i was driving in the wet my brakes just didt seem to want to work at all they just keept bouncing like fading screching realy scared me. i got ba rotors trying to get some calipers (big search starts tommorw) now i need to know where can i get some plates and rings made up just in case the gtst calipers will not bolt right on and i need them ASAP i dont wanna die any time soon so as much help as possable and as soon as possable please.. also i whould rather buy these plates and not use them then try fitting them on and needing them so yeah

car i drive is a 1990 aus spec glx mx83 cressida
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Tue, 15 February 2005 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Get R33 calipers and they WILL fit. You need to fabricate a locator ring though.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/norbee/BrakeUpgrade /default.htm

http://members.optusnet.com.au/norbee/BrakeUpgrade/Caliper1.jpg
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Tue, 15 February 2005 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Where do you live?
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Tue, 15 February 2005 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i2obert wrote on Tue, 15 February 2005 21:26

... i was driving in the wet ... just keept bouncing like fading screching .. car i drive is a 1990 aus spec glx mx83 cressida


Cressida dudes... does it come with ABS by any chance?
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Tue, 15 February 2005 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im from south east melb and no it dosent have abs its only a glx not a grande


i plan on putting the nissan calipers on with ba rotors the thing im trying to find out is if i need to make up one of those plates or not i have been told that i do need a plate made up then i have been told i dont im confused and just want to find out from people who have done the conversion

also where can i get one of those rings made??

[Updated on: Tue, 15 February 2005 20:14]

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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Wed, 16 February 2005 06:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robert -
YOU DO NOT NEED TO GET ANY CUSTOM PLATES MADE UP. THEY BOLT STRAIGHT UP. we answered this for you on www.toyotacressida.com Rolling Eyes

any decent machine shop can make the locator rings..

you just need to tell them the "OD" (Outside Diameter) of the Hub (which is 60mm), and the "ID" Inside Diameter of the new rotor (which is 71.5mm for the BA Falcon)

So, what you end up with is a ring that has an ID of 60mm and an OD of 71.5mm

If you like, I am getting mine made up shortly, I will let you know the price and if you send me the $$$, I will get two extra made up...

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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Wed, 16 February 2005 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry southo yeah i rang up places and so on and yeah they said there all the same trew it only the disc and they said i should try a holden disc as they use the same bearing as a cressida ??? have you got any places i should goto to get a ring made up ???
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Wed, 16 February 2005 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Using a Holden disc (and presumably hub) is a bit retarded, it has a different stud pattern so your wheels won't fit any more. Rolling Eyes

The above is by far the quickest and easiest upgrade for a Cressida, and it has been proven to work because I've been driving around with this setup for nearly a month!
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Wed, 16 February 2005 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i2obert wrote on Tue, 15 February 2005 21:26

alright now today when i was driving in the wet my brakes just didt seem to want to work at all they just keept bouncing like fading screching realy scared me.


Before you blow a whole lot of cash on an upgrade (that it sounds like you'll never see the limits of), why don't you get your brakes checked out? When was the last time you bled your brakes? Is your master cylinder on the way out? Do you have a leak somewhere? Are you running El Cheapo Taiwanese $30 pads?
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Thu, 17 February 2005 01:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A very good point... if you still have the stock 7M-GE, the stock brakes are quite adequate. No point spending a whole pile of cash on huge brakes if you don't need that much stopping power.

Get your brakes checked out and make sure you're using decent pads and all will be well.
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Thu, 17 February 2005 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the reason im upgrading the brakes is becouse i plan on having a 1jz in buy end of year and i rather do up brakes and fuel system now so it ready and i dont have to worry about it later on

as for brakes beeing checked out i got them machiend and new pads on it just for now

ok as for the ring has any one got the diagram or somthing i can take to a engerneer or a toolmacker to make ???
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Thu, 17 February 2005 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Go and see Hoppers Stoppers in Hoppers Crossing

Peter is a great bloke and should be able to work ut what you need, take him all the info in this thread and from your other cressida forums and he should be able to build up what you want.
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Fri, 18 February 2005 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I might be able to help you out somewhat, seeing as you don't live too far away. PM me if you're still having issues.
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Fri, 18 February 2005 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Are the standard MX83 brake lines just plug and play with the BA / R33 setup?
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Sat, 19 February 2005 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes.
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Sat, 19 February 2005 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh yeah, and the Commodore hubs aren't quite such an easy fit, MX83s use a different bearing...
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Re: mx83 brake upgrade Sat, 19 February 2005 11:13 Go to previous message
That's true, in fact they are VERY different to earlier Toyota's (eg MA61), and there's no way the Commodore bearing will be compatible. You need a press to get the suckers out, which means changing the bearings isn't a backyard job for most of us. Sad
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