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funkdoc
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Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Thu, 17 February 2005 19:00 Go to next message
Purchased a set of endless SS-M pads for my AE86 and i must say... they are the lowest performing brake pads i have EVER used (on jap spec brake setup)!!!

After about 2000km of street driving... The front pads backing plate and the friction material fell apart...as in two pieces. Went back to the endless distributor, Centrax Auto QLD, They rejected warrenty claims saying that they were fitted incorrectly. They were replaced with bendix metal kings.

After 3, 5 lap sessions... he rear pads are also showing major cracking while the metal kings in the front (more heat) surived. I cannot understand how Centrax can sell me a $970 set of brake pads and they fall apart after 2000km and still reject claims of a faulty product.
Just to clearify... the pads were installed by professional brake specialist (ABS)... and upon inspection i was told the pads were correctly fitted but they just werent up to the task of handling hard braking...

I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER ENDLESS PRODUCT AGAIN!!!

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AE86slut
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Thu, 17 February 2005 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Unfortunately this is getting pretty common with the big Jap brands. I've heard of the D1-spec pads having the same problem - friction material breaking away from the plate. And it wasn't just once either.
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st184 sillycar
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Thu, 17 February 2005 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Funkdoc, if you can prove that the endless pads were installed correctly, call the A.C.C.C. and get 'em to hassle the place you bought the endless pads from. They're generally quite happy to put a call in to an uncooperative business to scare the sh!te out of them, and get your warranty claim.

Seriously.
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styler
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Thu, 17 February 2005 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
$970 for a set of brake pads????
did they come with a free car or something?

endless brand, what to spend an endless amount
of money Laughing

i hate it when guarantees are rejected tho

[Updated on: Thu, 17 February 2005 22:38]

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st184 sillycar
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Thu, 17 February 2005 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, that's what I thought!

I think my Bendix advance/semi-metallic pads were less than $200 for the whole car, and they're fantastic, not that I've done a track day, but I've pushed them way beyond where the factory pads faded, and they still felt rock-solid.
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ae86drift
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Thu, 17 February 2005 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if you want JDM pads, get project mu, awesome stuff.
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improvedae86
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Thu, 17 February 2005 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I just see one problem are the pads for RACE USE ONLY ? If so there really might not be any warranty as most race only components are covered by not warranty . Not that it should have happenned but there are really thinking the vehicle will be constantly inspected after each event .

I have never looked at any jap pads before , but the material coming off the backing plate THAT FARKING DANGERIOUS . If the pads are not for race use where fitted by a qualified persons , and theres no underwriting on there invoice etc like a disclaimer about not covered if used in race conditions etc . Then you really are being jacked about , what would have happened if you ran out of brakes hit someone ? The insurance company if there inspected the vehicle wouldn't be paying . There would have mostly sent the pads for a independent inspection and chase Centrax Auto QLD into court so fast they wouldn't no what hit them . Also try the local vehicle chambers of commerce in that state as well .

As for the cost , well since the pad is the same as aus spec sprinters and depending on how fast the car / what temperature the pads are getting too { This is now easy to tell with lazer heat temperature guns or the stick on heat range stickers } you could have maybe just used lucas pads $65-75 .4 friction coefficient , or maybe a Race brake pad compound for $145 which are always good and offer great service . Big brands if you must have the sticker to go with it would be Hawk , there $440 per set from memory and chew the discs like no tommorrow .
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truenosedan
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Fri, 18 February 2005 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acre super fighter 0-450 is what i have now...ill let you know how i go! i also swapped the stock discs for haet treated jdm vented and slotted and replaced brake lines

i have used ebc black in the past...they seemed VERY good on a light car even with solids etc

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HyDrA
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Fri, 18 February 2005 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Try Hawk brake pads out next time... they seem to be pretty good.

They make AE86 pads for anything from street to the higest forms of racing afaik.
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funkdoc
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Fri, 18 February 2005 05:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'll definately be looking into the ACCC to make a complaint. The pads i was using is an all rounder. Super Street M compound is rated 0-530 degrees celcus which on the brocher is good for street, winding road and light circuit work.

Any pad in which the backing plate and friction material seperates in my opinion is signs of a faulty product, at no stage should they ever separate, they can over heat and produce lower coefficient of friction etc. but if they fall apart... thats just FUCKIN DANGEROUS!!!

The funny thing is, when i went back to centrax, not only did they reject my claim, they said i should try the NA-R... with a higher heat range... they've gotta be fuckin kiddin me. Laughing

[Updated on: Fri, 18 February 2005 06:46]

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FWDCelica
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Re: Endless Brake Pads SUCK!!! Fri, 18 February 2005 08:32 Go to previous message
Dude,

You need to talk to Consumer Affairs or Fair Trading
(or whatever it's called in QLD)

ACCC won't want to know about it.

Did you pay for them with a Credit Card ?

If so ring your bank and tell them to chargeback to the Merchant as the goods are faulty. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


Cheers
T.
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