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Adelaide, Semaphore
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade issues.... Not the ussual ones
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Mon, 21 February 2005 05:27
 
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the 218mm KE30 discs fit under 13" rims...
the 228mm discs of the TA22 also probably fit.
if you want anything larger, you will have to get bigger rims.. simple as that..
you might get a few more mm by using calipers that need little space, btu thats not really worth the effort..
oh, and 234mm camira discs also fit under 13" rims with volvo 4 spots.
Cya, Stewart
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Vic, AU
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September 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade issues.... Not the ussual ones
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Mon, 21 February 2005 06:00
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The XT130 brakes are an increase over the stock KE3x/5x brakes. Just use them. 
Should be plenty of stopping power until you feel the need to upgrade. Even then, with some cross-drilled/slotted rotors and high quality pads, you should get away with some good brakes...
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade issues.... Not the ussual ones
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Mon, 21 February 2005 09:05
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Thanks Stewart,
Its a bit of a help, I really want to stay with the 13's
I have. As you say, 234mm camira discs fit under 13" rims with volvo 4 spots, on what struts will this setup work on. No problem with pulling up a 2TG? The other option is to maybe look at taking the xt130 struts back and exchange the for the ta22 ones? Would that work? These rims came off a ta22, I presume are better than the ke55 ones? Sorry bout all these questions, just want to do this right first time.
Gr8r-x.... xt130 struts fit 14" onwards only (I think). I have tried the 13's on them, stud pattern is fine, but the callipers are a tad on the big side, only just though.
Where to now?
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade issues.... Not the ussual ones
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Mon, 21 February 2005 10:15
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this was on a KE15 
with kidney style rims (i forgot the name )
with brakes, it depend show fast you want to go, and how often... bigger brakes are always better..
there are calculations you can do to find the needed size of disc, based on heat generation from stopping from a certain speed..
i figured for a 700kg car, 230-250mm would be wuite ok, as long as you have good pads.. thats most important..
TA22 discs are also solids.. vented will be much better..
i have nfi about the struts etc...
what rims are they that are so good?
or is it just for the rubber?
Cya, Stewart
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade issues.... Not the ussual ones
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Mon, 21 February 2005 22:03
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The mags are the old cheviot style 13x6 with near new rubber, I'm kind of fond of the wheels on the car, hence not wanting to change them if at all possible. I'm really trying to exhaust all options before looking at changing the wheels to 14". Yes, the easiest thing to do would be change the wheels giving me more choice, but then I wouldn't end up with what I would like. I know I can get the same wheels in 14", but at an added expense. So, trying to make do with what I have would be great. Has anyone else got some options of brakes to fit under 13" wheels. Is there a vented option with 4 pots that could fit or be made to fit?
Stewart, the disks on the ta22 are solid, which as I believe would be to no great advantage, but is it a better option to use the struts from the ta22 or the xt130 as a starting ground?
Or maybe the struts on the ke55 would suffice with different disks and callipers?
I hope I am asking all the right questions, and not digging up an old can of worms. I have done a fair bit of searching, and not found anything relative to keeping the 13" wheels and upgrading the brakes.
Cheers
Ciaran
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sat, 30 April 2005 06:17
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I am interested to know how you went here cwhelan. I can get a pair of '79 volvo 240 calipers cheaply. Are these the ones? I also want to keep my 13's as I have almost $900 worth of rubber.
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Kilsyth, Melbourne
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September 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sun, 01 May 2005 05:37
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yes like wise. wondering wot strut to use aswell.
Cheers, Calvin
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qld
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December 2003
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sun, 01 May 2005 08:22
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id suggest jdm ae86 struts and brakes.
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MELBOURNE
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December 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sun, 01 May 2005 08:58
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Hey Stewart
What about that corolla in your Avatar? That looks like it doesn't have very big rims yet that would have to stop pretty damn quickly.
THanks
Troy
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sun, 01 May 2005 09:45
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| slydar wrote on Sun, 01 May 2005 18:22 |
id suggest jdm ae86 struts and brakes.
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i was meaning wot struts for the camira brakes
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September 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sun, 01 May 2005 23:30
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Sorry about the delay lads, not on the net as much with all my study and work load. I will write up on exactly how I have gone so far. It is relatively simple, but does require a bit of stuffing around. Here's the breakdown as I have done it: Nissan pulsar SSS 1.6 vented disks, they are 17mm thick. I had the radius taken down by 1.6mm, and cost me $15 to do it. I got volvo 244 calipers which will work well under 13". I haven't finished the job yet. But from trial fitting with a template bracket made from MDF it all fits. There is a 2mm thick spacer that I have made for the centre of the calipers to open them up a bit more that needs to be fitted otherwise the disk would be too thick be 1mm. I am house-sitting for a month, as soon as I get back home I will take pics for those that would be interested. I have pilled so many caliper brackets and calipers appart and found these seem to be the only cofiguration to fit under the 13" jellybeans. Calliper brackets will have to be milled, but not expensive as I am told by my engineer. These are yet to be made, if it works out cost efective, I will make up a few more sets to sell with the laser cut spacers for the calipers. Don't expect anything too soon as I won't be home for a month.
Cheers,
Ciaran Whelan
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Mon, 02 May 2005 01:34
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Cwhelan good stuff. I am very interested in some pics. What struts you using with these?
Cheers, Rob
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Mon, 02 May 2005 04:15
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I used xt130 struts....
Will let you know more later, at work at mo, boss is hot on my tail for bein on the net
cheers
ciaran
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Kilsyth, Melbourne
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September 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Mon, 02 May 2005 07:15
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so is any caliper interchangeable with the right width disk or wot? how do we know wot calipers fit on what disk?
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Melbourne
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March 2005
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Mon, 02 May 2005 08:01
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im havin the same issue with my ke20, i want to keep the original hubcaps  but doesnt sound like i will be able if i want to stop good?
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Mon, 02 May 2005 08:37
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I'd say anything is possible for $$$$$$$$$$.
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Mon, 02 May 2005 22:43
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So far it has cost me next to nothing, it cost me a good few hours though. It is just a matter of looking through the DBA catalogue and looking for a disk that will be an ok size and start from there. not many options on 4 spot calipers though. RX7 and Volvo will be the cheapest option. RX7 is the lighter of the two, but a little bit expensive, and not as easy to find for cheap. So Volvo 244/245 calpiers was the choice. Pulsar rotors are the same stud patern for bolting up to the hubs, and vented also. I had the diameter reduced in size in order to have all this fit under the 13" and still have space for a caliper bracket. I cut the caliper bracket lugs off of the XT130 struts and started designing a bracket out of MDF as a template for the engineer to mill up a couple for me. These have not been done yet, but will have them done soon. It aint easy juggling assignments and work with the car project. Anyways, hope this helps a bit. As I said before, I will try take some pics ASAP. In fact, I will be going home tomorrow night to get some things for an assignment, so I will try remember to take a few pictures then. Only thing is that I don't know how to post them up here. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction...
Cheers
Ciaran Whelan
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Wed, 04 May 2005 08:17
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| hokey wrote on Mon, 02 May 2005 17:15 |
so is any caliper interchangeable with the right width disk or wot? how do we know wot calipers fit on what disk?
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Wed, 04 May 2005 11:14
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I have the pics now, how do I post them up on the configuration?
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Wed, 04 May 2005 13:18
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go to http://imageshack.us/ host them there. then put the url as a link on this page.
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Wed, 04 May 2005 13:53
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Ok, that makes sense. Just figured it all out, not too hard at all, hope these pics work, 
Hmmmm here goes...
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August 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Wed, 04 May 2005 22:01
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Top effort mate. good work.
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Kilsyth, Melbourne
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September 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Wed, 04 May 2005 22:15
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is that the corolla hub?
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North East NSW
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Wed, 04 May 2005 22:34
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how thick is the mounting flange on that rotor? have you threaded the disc mounting bolts through the rotor or are they held on at the other side by something else? (bolts? spacer?) does the center hole center the disc neatly on the hub like factory, or is it only held firm by the mount bolts?
the volvo caliper is external twin circuit, are you just joining the two piston lines together and connecting the brake hose to the bottom line on the caliper?
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Ipswich
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May 2002
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Wed, 04 May 2005 22:40
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Interesting upgrade, nice work!
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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September 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Thu, 05 May 2005 07:50
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Sorry its taken awhile to reply to these questions, not easy using the net with the boss breathing down my neck. I had been working on this upgrade for quite some time now. I just went home yesterday to take some pics, There are going to be a few small chnges to what I have already done. I think the mounting flange was around 7.5mm (off the top of my memory). The "deck height" of the rotor is very similar to the xt130 rotor. The centre hole was about 2.5mm smaller than the xt130 centre hole.
I had an engineer true up the rotor and open the centre hole a little to be an H7/s6 fit. I can go into it in much better detail, and take photo's of the veiws you would like. This upgrade will be a very easy one to do if you want to give it a go. Its more time consuming trying to figure it all out than anything else. I am going to be changing the caliper bracket to make life a little easier again. the bracket in the pictures will work, but there is a bit of machining to be done to the face of the bracket plate. If you have worked with xt130 struts, you will know that where the fillets are at the rear of the strut to hub face (where I am showing the plate to be mounted) protrude a fair bit. These fillets cannot be skimmed down to make the bracket fit, as you would weaken the strut.
The Bracket I have just designed kind of looks like 2 10mm plates overlapping one another but shaped to suit the caliper and the mounting holes on the strut. I wanted to do this project with little machining as to affect the integrity of the strut.
Jamie: The rotor mounts up to the hub exactly the same way as the ke55 and xt130 hub. I have priced these rotors up from new, and was quoted $64ea which isnt too bad at all.
Volvo do a recon swap over for only $120, so it is advisable to keep the caliper stock and just tee off the twin lines. Pretty easy and very inexpensive.
I will be getting these mounting brackets machined up in about 3 weeks or so when I get some cash to do it. Will keep you all updated on these as well.
Hope all this helps....
Ciaran Whelan.
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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September 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Fri, 06 May 2005 07:59
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I have done a rough drawing of the brackets if anyone wants it, There are no dimensions on it just as yet, But, it will easily help you understand how to get the bracket machined.
Just let me know and I'll dig it out for you.
Cheers
Ciaran
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Fri, 06 May 2005 11:50
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cwhelan: If you don't mind, I've put some of the info you've provided on the Rollaclub Wiki If you could provide the rough drawing of the brackets too, that would be helpful
Thanks
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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September 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Mon, 09 May 2005 04:52
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I have the drawing at home on disk, will get it on the weekend when I get to do a bit more work on the car .
Thats no problem at all on the pics being used elsewhere, am
glad it will help out.
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Fri, 13 May 2005 07:19
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Hey Demuire, what format do you want the drawing in? Is .dwg fine? (autocad) or I can lock it in as a dwf file.
Update on the brackets....
I have sent the drawings and template off to the
engineer to have a set and extra set milled up. I haven't
been given a price, but was advised it wouldn't be too
expensive. Please note, these are not the same as my original
brackets I have shown in the photos. I have found a better way
for them to be made. As soon as I have them back I will take
more photo's.
Cheers
Ciaran
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Ipswich
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Fri, 13 May 2005 07:23
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Oh wow, it's an autocad drawing? Was sort of expecting like a umm... I don't know, more simple format But umm, yeah, whatever format is more common would work. I probably won't be able to open it, but hopefully it will be of some help to anyone else looking to do the same upgrade as you have done.
Thanks heaps.
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Sat, 14 May 2005 02:11
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I am definatly interested in doing the same pic. If they fit under 13's.
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Melbourne
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March 2005
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Sat, 14 May 2005 02:46
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u rkn these will fit under 12" stock wheels for a ke20?
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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September 2004
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Sun, 15 May 2005 14:33
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Nathos...
You have to be pulin the other leg bud,its got bells on that one. I have gone through all this to get a fit under 13" JUST!! I tell you what, if you think you can get 4 pot and vented under 12", I'll eat my hat, your hat and offer you the respect of a thousand camels, 12 geese and 7 Himalayan yak's. I will then procede to let you design a way to make a fiat bambina go 4wd and turbo, just for the hell of it. 
On a lighter note: Muaythaiman I'll give you first option on the spare set of caliper brackets that I am getting made, thats for giving me direction on how the hell to go about getting the booster problem overcome by using the ke30 jap spec. PS:have found a better option on the master cylinder, new and shiny 
I probably won't get the brackets for a few weeks yet, and will fit and take pics first as an example of fit.
We go home this week, am coming to the end of this house sitting shyte (not all that bad considering the lake is part of our backyard and good for fishing). Will post up the drawing when i get home, prob Wed or Thurs. Will post in PDF and DWG format.
Cheers
Ciaran
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Mon, 16 May 2005 02:18
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most definately not, ke30 brakes don't even fit under ke20 12s
i would like to see how well these brakes actually do stop, ke70 brakes are pretty crap, even on my ke25. i was in demuire's ke35 on the weekend, he's got xt130 struts with the hilux/pug upgrade and oh my god does that thing pull up quick!
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Mon, 16 May 2005 04:45
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i was in demuire's ke35 on the weekend, he's got xt130 struts with the hilux/pug upgrade and oh my god does that thing pull up quick!
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The rear discs help a fair bit with that too, to a surprising degree actually. You noticed the 2nd time I jumped on the brakes I actually slightly locked up the rear wheels for a fraction of a second, that's how much braking power I have on the back now! Plus, good pads help a bit too.
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Mon, 16 May 2005 12:48
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Hey demuire, have you the photos of when you did the rear end? Having upgraded to 2tg in my ke55, I am still yet to do the dif. I have been advised that my ke55 diff won't take a hammering. So, if my diff has to be changed, I will look at doing a disc upgrade. Yes I have done a search on the how to's, it doesn't seem too difficult. I take it that it all has to be blue slipped through engineers?
Cheers mate.
Super Jamie: I take it that your at the stage of deciding what front brake upgrade to go for next? Yes the ke70 brakes are shit, then again solid rotor and single pot aren't made for serious upgrades.
I will let you know how the car pulls up, should stop on a dime with no problems. I only went through all this to get the best option to stick 13" feet on it.
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Mon, 16 May 2005 12:54
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cwhelan: Yes, all blue plated.
Photos
It's an RA23 diff, with early Bluebird TRX discs. Barely fits in 14" rims.
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Tue, 17 May 2005 00:22
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cwhelan: Just thinking, would the AE86 rear disc end fit under 13" rims? I seem to keep thinking the AE86 front brakes do, so maybe the rears do too? They aren't the most effective things in the world, but I doubt if many brake options that fit under 13" rims would be much to write home about, and in any case they would probably be better than the stock brakes, which I'm guessing is what you're after.
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Re: KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims **PICS ADDED**
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Wed, 18 May 2005 14:07
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Would the AE86 disk end be stronger on the ke with 2TG than the borg as standard?
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Re: **NEW PICS**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Thu, 19 May 2005 22:04
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I reckon I'll go the same front brake combo as cwhelan, and try adapting the orig. ke55 front calipers and discs to the rear, on a T series diff. We'll see. might be easier to just get a disc brake rear end.
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Re: **NEW PICS**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Thu, 19 May 2005 22:07
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Would the AE86 disk end be stronger on the ke with 2TG than the borg as standard?
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What do you mean? If you're asking if the AE86 diff is stronger than the standard KE3x diff, then the answer is yes.
Looks good
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Re: **NEW PICS**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Thu, 19 May 2005 22:08
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muaythaiman: What would you use for the handbrake? Would probably be easier to use calipers off the rear of another car?
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Re: **NEW PICS**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Fri, 20 May 2005 08:07
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demuire, good point! I never thought of that. The price of a disc brake rear end is a bit off puting to be honest, but maybe you can shed some light on this. What rear end are you using?
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Re: **NEW PICS**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Fri, 20 May 2005 12:34
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I'm using an RA23 Celica diff, and using early Bluebird TRX disc brakes on it. The bolt holes on the Bluebird backing plate need to be slotted to bolt on to the diff, but apart from that everything is stock. Rather simple and cheap upgrade.
If I was to do it again, I'd probably look into R31 Skyline rear brakes, as they have a steel backing plate (I think), and don't use an internal drum for handbrake. Also, much much more common to find.
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September 2004
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Re: **NEW PICS**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Fri, 20 May 2005 14:07
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Ok... heres what you have been waiting
for. I have had the engineer make up a
jig for cutting the chunks of steel for
the calipers. I have made the full size
model of the bracket and checked fit and
alignment before the milling gets under
way. I have asked for 2 extra sets to be
made as I have had the extra pieces of
metal cut. I will either keep these as
spares for my coupes or put the extra's
up for sale to cover the expenses of
getting a jig made and metal cut. I have
no idea on what it will cost for getting
the milling work done, but will advise when
it gets done. I will give you first dibs on
one of the sets muaythaiman if you like? I am
assuming $160 for a set should cover the machining
costs. Don't hold me to that just yet, but it
will make the Volve calipers a straight bolt on
upgrade. Here's the pics so far:
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Re: **Bracket update**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sat, 21 May 2005 03:25
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Good stuff cwhelan. You have done a bloody good job. I wonder if your brackets will bolt to a standard ke55 strut? You can put me down for a pair mate. Even if they don't I will get some xt130 struts.
Again good work 
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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September 2004
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Re: **Bracket update**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sat, 21 May 2005 05:47
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I can do one better, I will take my hubs off my coupe and check them to the standard struts. Give me an hour or so, just cleaning out the garage, so will post up an answer for you. I will hold a set for you no problem, I have had interest in the other set I will have also, but no definates. The engineer will make up a template for me, so if these work out as I hope, I should be able to get more done as needed. I am not in any business as quite a few of you know, just a student enjoying my hobbies. If Toymods would like to have me as a paid member, I will gladly look into it as I have gained valuable knowledge from this site, to which I thank very much.
Back in a while with those pics and answer on fitting...
Cheers
Ciaran
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September 2004
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Re: **Bracket update**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sat, 21 May 2005 07:35
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i HAVE EXCEEDED MY LIMIT ON PHOTO HOSTING. DAMN!! WILL TRY OPEN ANOTHER ACCOUNT TO POST UP THESE NEW PICS FOR YOU, AM OFF TO DINNER NOW, SO WILL DO IT WHEN I GET BACK TONIGHT....
Oop, sorry about that, have caps lock from working on autocad. Chat soon.... caio
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Re: **Bracket update**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sat, 21 May 2005 08:15
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cwhelan: If you need a good hosting service (but to get unlimited you have to pay a little) try out Fotki.com. I've been with them for a few years, they're really good.
Alternatively I've mirrored your photos on Rollaclub (as I stated before, at Rollaclub Wiki so if you really really have to, you could replace the photos you have online already with the new ones - but then you won't be able to see all the photos here on this thread, which would be a pity.
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Location:
Adelaide, Semaphore
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September 2004
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Re: **Bracket update**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sun, 22 May 2005 02:12
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DISCLAIMER
I developed this upgrade for my own use, and I am offering it to others as a courtesy only, and on a strictly AS-IS basis. USE THIS INFORMATION STRICTLY AT YOUR OWN RISK!! I will accept absolutely no responsibility or liability for anything that happens as a result of your use of the information presented here.
As you can see here, there is a bit of a difference between the two struts. The Stub axle is heavier and also the thickness of the strut shaft is stronger. The bracket holes are not in the same positions, and the strut face is made to take a bit more agressive driving when it comes to bracket mounting. You cant see in these pics, but the strengthening fillets behind the mounting face are alot chunkier also, which make it stronger.
Self explanitory, measuring up the mounting holes to see if they will suit the brackets being made for the xt130 struts. The holes are closer together. I think you could still use the brackets on the Ke55 struts, you would have to redrill the top mounting hole on the bracket. The only thing is that these brackets have been designed for Vented Pulsar rotors. I don't know if these will work for ke55 disks, you would have to have the caliper side of the mounting bracket milled in thickness to allow for the caliper to sit in the centre of the disc.
Measuring my sketch for centre of mounting for strut face to bracket.
Measuring centres of mounting holes on KE55 hub to rotor mounting holes.
Measuring centres of mounting holes on Pulsar SSS vented rotor to hub mounting holes. As you can see for yourselves, the rotor holes will not line up.
Conclusion:
You could go ahead and try adapt these brackets to suit for ke55 struts, but the problem you will face is that you will find it to be of no use as you will still have brake problems due to rotor cooling as the ke55 hub doesn't allow for vented disks of the correct size to be fitted. This upgrade is a very cost afective way to go. ABS sell these rotors brand new for next to nothing, Volvo 244/245 calipers are in most U-pull it/ Pick a part place, and normally 4 or 5 cars sitting there with the parts ready to be taken off. These are a cheap caliper to have as a swap over recon unit. I think from memory about $128 or close to for a pair. It is cheaper to swap them at Volvo than to buy the rebuild kit!! (bloody volvo drivers)
I am very tempted to buy up as many xt130 struts, volvo calipers and pulsar rotors I can afford and sell these all built up and modified with brackets and everything set up. It would be a good little after work/school part time job. And fun too. Anyways, this has been enjoyable and hope it all helps.
Cheers,
Ciaran
[Updated on: Sun, 22 May 2005 03:22]
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December 2004
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Re: **Bracket update**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sun, 22 May 2005 08:19
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Hey
Slightly off topic but what master cylinder should I use, I'm planning on using camira discs, with volvo 4 spots. I've got a few questions! What volvo do they come off? WHat master cylinder should I use? Does the camira disk have the same stud pattern/measurements? Have a good one!
Thanks
Troy
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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Re: **Bracket update**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sun, 22 May 2005 13:14
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Interesting use of the Paseo MC, what size is it? I'm using a Pajero unit, 15/16.
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: **Bracket update**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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Sun, 22 May 2005 22:04
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Far out cwhelan. That's in-depth. Looks like the xt130 struts are the way to go. Making brackets, finding a suitable rotor etc. for the 55 strut would take as much effort as you have done already. Cheers for that.
So you decided against the remote booster I see. I would have avoided it.
Now just got to find some 130 struts................
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**Bracket update**KE 55 brake upgrade to fit in 13" rims
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