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Registered: February 2005
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3s-gte swap into 1994 american corolla
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Thu, 24 February 2005 20:42
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I would appreciate any information about this swap that anyone might have. I don't know if the Australian Corolla is anything like ours, but you guys seem to really know a lot about Toyota's. I am really curious about the amount of work involved, the logistics, and if the 3sgte tranny will work. This is a project my brother and I are planning. He doesn't know if he wants to do this or a b-16a powered Honda Civic. I want him to do the Corolla because I like Toyota better and I have a Corolla.
Thanks
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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I Supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: December 2002
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Re: 3s-gte swap into 1994 american corolla
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Fri, 25 February 2005 05:29
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The 3SGTE gearbox (and engine) will fit into a Celica because the Celica (ST...) is designed to have a 3S engine thus the ST... chassis identifier.
Corolla's are designed to take A series engines (7A, 4A etc.) so the 3S definately isn't going to be a straight bolt in.
If it will physically fit the corolla east west then you are going to have to do quite a bit of custom work.
You would probably have to use an MR2 gearbox as the Celica 3SGTE is from the Gtfour (Alltrac) and is a 4WD gearbox.
You would probably require at least as much custom work in a Civic... probably more.
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Registered: February 2005
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Re: 3s-gte swap into 1994 american corolla
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Fri, 25 February 2005 14:47
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So it would be much easier in say a 1992 Celica since those Corollas already had a model with the 3sgte in them. If that is the case can I use an engine/tranny swap from an MR2 into a standard front wheel drive ST or GT? Which one would you recommend? The all-tracs are available here, but they are very rare, and somewhat expensive.
Thanks
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Location: brisvegas
Registered: December 2004
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Re: 3s-gte swap into 1994 american corolla
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Fri, 25 February 2005 16:09
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you can stick in an sw20 mr2 3sgte, as far as i can gather.
as for sticking in the mr2 gearbox thats a bit more difficult. if you did do such a conversion dont buy the engine then the loom then ecu etc etc - it'll end up costing you a mint. if you end up taking this route i would suggest you find an SW20 halfcut (which will have the loom ecu etc etc and a bumch of other stuff you can use in the swap) and save yourself the grief.
your catch in that instance will be that the Mr2's gearbox has its gearshift linkages on (what i will call) 'front side' of the engine in east west fitment. so all the linkages enter the box from the front of the car, from the shift lever in the cabin thats in front of engine.
in a corolla or other fwd car the linkages exit the gearbox from the REAR side of the box, and go *backwards* in the car to the shifter in the cabin (BEHIND the engine). obviously thats a problem.
this isnt a dealkiller it is possible to drill out the opposite side and sort the linkages that way (ive seen someone - cant remember where tho - detailing how they nicked a fwd corolla box, drilled the box to accept linkages from the other side and then mounted it to an MR2. in this case youd need to do the reverse).
as i say not a dealkiller but its an expense you probably can do without (and fabrication type labour is the expensive stuff) so something therefore to keep in mind. not as expensive as the fab work sorting 3sgte mounts into a corolla but enough to think it through first, id say.
ive not commented on allwheeldrive/alltrac stuffs as i know nothing about those. sorry!
good luck whatever swap you end up picking!
Cheers
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