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W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 05:44 Go to next message
Lads,

Who has a W58 in their AE86?

Rex is fine tuning the fitment of his and prior to finalising the mount he thought it prudent to seek some advice from those who have one.

Which shifter position is most appropriate (and from what car), or did you just cut steel?..

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Chris

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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Of the four positions available, I found the most forward one (RA65 etc) to be the best, it sat 1" further forward than the T50 stick, but has a fair rearwards angle on the actual shifter, so falls to hand nicely. It "just" clears the front of the shifter hole without any cutting.

The next position back would be absolutely perfect, but I couldn't find one over a 6 month period. Had two freighted to me that were both wrong.

The second from the back position (GA/MA70) can be fitted, but requires about 15mm to be cut from the hole in the floor, and the shifter to be straightened, otherwise it feels too close to the handbrake.

Don't even consider the furthest back position Sad

What are you using for a gearbox crossmember?

Cheers Razz
Phil

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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rexy

This is the 1UZ W58 someone put into their AE86 last year.

Looks like an MA61/RA65/Ra60 shifter position to me.

Not sure where the engine sits compared to factory motors.

http://www.twincam.org/forums/uploads/post-4-10765 50971.jpg
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maybe measure it?


http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/Toyota_Supra_5spd_Shifter.jpg
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The above transmissions feature a range of gearshift positions as standard. Measured from the front face of the transmission these are : 18, 20, 21, 21.5 inches.

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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Of the shifter positions

MA61/RA65/Ra60 is forward most
nfi what is next back
GA70/MA70 is 2nd rear
SA63 is rear most
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The one in the far left of that picture is definately the one I used Smile
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TE72_Turbo wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 17:59



Don't even consider the furthest back position Sad

Phil


Rex's W comes from a 1GG(T or Z)E of some description. So its likely to be the second from the rear. It looks as if it wil require 15mm cut from the tunnel.

So, if changing to the MA61 ness shifter, Rex will require.

The Shifter itself and carrier section along with the selector shaft?

Checked the FAQ thread but it was somewhat unclear...
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A little off topic, but if someone has one of the further back shifters, I'll buy it!!
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hehehe, good luck

I've been looking for one (although, not actively) for months now.

I have 2 xA70 ones!
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maybe Rexy want to swap?
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rex will have GA70, or 2nd most rear.

Will that clear the hole in your tunnel Confused
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rex_Kelway wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 15:42


The Shifter itself and carrier section along with the selector shaft?

The shifter positioner (the bit the shifter bolts to) and the bit that bolts to the selector shaft are the only things that differ.

While you have the rear of the box off, make sure the speedo drive gear is the correct one. (it comes in 10 and 11 teeth)
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm sure I have the 20inch(/me looks down Rolling Eyes ) and I have no problem with clearances. I just want to get the shifter further back for comfort.
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool1 wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 16:09

I'm sure I have the 20inch(/me looks down Rolling Eyes ) and I have no problem with clearances. I just want to get the shifter further back for comfort.

Hmmm, the 20inch is the unknown shifter, what car was the gearbox from?
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 18:10

Cool1 wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 16:09

I'm sure I have the 20inch(/me looks down Rolling Eyes ) and I have no problem with clearances. I just want to get the shifter further back for comfort.

Hmmm, the 20inch is the unknown shifter, what car was the gearbox from?

I have no idea! It came out of a 4x4 of some sort Confused
An LY80 or LX80??

http://members.iinet.net.au/~shanej/box/P0001733.JPG

http://members.iinet.net.au/~shanej/box/P0001734.JPG

http://members.iinet.net.au/~shanej/box/P0001735.JPG
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LX80's are Cressidas/MarkII's with 2L-T motors.

So I doubt the motor sits back further than a 7M would.


LY60 is a hiace type car? van?
Sounds about right, mid 80's.
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah its defenatly out of a 4x4 cause I was given the transfer box and shaft aswell Confused
But i'm willing to swap mine for the further back shifter. I think Rolling Eyes
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'll have the further back one (GA70) in a few months if you are still searching then.

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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool. Its not real urgent.
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Re: W58 shifter position in AE86 Fri, 25 February 2005 08:35 Go to previous message
Cool1 wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 18:32

Maybe Rexy want to swap?



Y'know Cool. That sounds like a great idea. Rex's is the second from the right.

If this one will suit you and you'd like to swap then....

HOORAH!!!

PM Rex and we'll go from there.
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