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stradlater
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1g-gte installation guide Mon, 04 November 2002 10:13 Go to next message
I've written a 1g-gte installation guide for installing the 1g-gte into the ra23. I think I've reasonably covered bases involving the actual dropping in of the motor. I have aimed it at those who don't really know where to start, and those who haven't really got a huge technical knowledge base.

I have put references in there, so I would encourage everybody to have a read if at all possible. I may enlarge it later.

Daniel.

http://www.lexicon.net/martinjm/celica/installatio n_guide_-_public.doc
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Mon, 04 November 2002 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Any luck on that dizzy cap pic dude? Just read the article too, very nice, well done Razz
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Mon, 04 November 2002 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
daahh.... keep reminding me mate, so I don't forget
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Mon, 04 November 2002 23:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hopefully no one will ever need to ask questions about this conversion again, as ive done a conversion guide as well, ive tried to make this the most in-depth article out there, its worth a read (as is the rest of the site).

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/proj ects/ra401ggeengineimplant.html

Nark if you are reading this would you be able to put this link in the tech articles, or maybe link Ed's main site cause there are a few other good toyota tech articles on it as well.

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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Wed, 06 November 2002 02:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks guys i will read these both great work!

just trying to print them Smile dam printing from explorer is going all silly

thanks again
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Wed, 06 November 2002 02:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Try printing mine off in word, seeing as how it's a word document and all.
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Wed, 06 November 2002 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
saved. I have been looking to put one into my ra23. These guides will be very helpful. but i am still considering the auto... it is supposed to have manual mode on it anyway...???
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Wed, 06 November 2002 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I wouldn't cos gettingit to run will be a bitch.
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Wed, 06 November 2002 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carefull

Glad I did not read this guide before I put my 1ggte in. Obviously my steering box is in the wrong position, 'cos even with the heat shields I have at least 10mm of clearance - are U aware that the 1ggte is installed at an angle leaning to the left (I think that it is 20deg - I got mine out of a front cut and put it back in the same way.

Also there is no reason to put people to the expense of cutting mountings off the xmember as it will all fit. All u have to do is mig the hole in the brackets and redrill it 10mm higher and to use 18r mounts upside down. This lowers the whole lot by 20mm and nothing touches on the bonnet. I agree that it is a good idea to use new mounts.

There is a installation guide put together by Grant (6 works) that seems to cover everything.
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icon1.gif  Re: 1g-gte installation guide Wed, 06 November 2002 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think it sits at 15 degrees. Or was that 25? Nah, I think 15...

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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Wed, 06 November 2002 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it's a 15 degree angle. I would far from recommend installing it like that.
"Using mounts upside down" and "redrilling holes 10mm up" all sounds too dodge for me. I'd want it done first time right time.
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Wed, 06 November 2002 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
with the 15 deg angle doesnt it clear everything? hence why it's even more important to install on angle, besides the fact oil drainage was probably designed to be on this angle.

here you are telling people you can use the standard turbos, or to atleast remove them while installing it, this is the first in all my research and conversation with guys who have done the conversion fr themselves that I have heard of it

darren and grant have both written up great full instillation guides, I'm pretty sure they are in the articles section
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Thu, 07 November 2002 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
guys after doing a few conversions (never a 1g tho) i have found that no 2 engines / cars / conversions are the same.

All these people have made "guide's" to give idea's and tell you how they cam across things.

they cant tell you every step so what we need to do is read them, take the idea's on board but still do your own conversion and tackle the problems in a way that suits.

no one can write a paper on how to install any 1g into any RA celica .

anyway i'm all excited about doing another swap now, so i gotta go sell some cars and parts Smile

thanks everyone for there time and effort in writting these great articles

Regards Ben
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Thu, 07 November 2002 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
P.S i have got my auto 1ggte running no probs as long as you get a halfcut with the auto computer its not hard!
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Thu, 07 November 2002 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't react too often but must when I am fed shit!!!

Can u please explain how shifting a hole 10mm up on a 5mm thick bracket and turning engine mounts upside down is dodgy.
If u bother too look at 18r engine mounts U will notice that lhs is different from rhs and the mounting stud is offset 10mm depending on which way it is up.

My car is fully engineered and been on the road now for almost 3 years without a single failure. I would rather leave engine mounting brackets where they where originally placed by the manufacturer on the xmember than to cut and reweld, apart from the additional expense for zero gain. My approach also removes to need to use a "dodgy" 10mm spacing plate. Please in future, before you make a comment that I can only find extremely insulting, think about what u are saying. Maybe when U have completed your conversion you may understand the stupidy of your comments.

'til then maybe u should be willing to take some advise from others!!

Craig
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Thu, 07 November 2002 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i dont "think" this towards me... but as i said i hear what others do and say then take my own way. I suggest everyone does that, puts the conversion / mod into context.

secondly boys boys boys were all toyota moders and lest not fight! unless we a united front againt COMMON DOORS!!!! Smile hehe

anyway "dont worry be happy" toyota on!
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Fri, 08 November 2002 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig,

Wasn't yours a TA23?
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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Fri, 08 November 2002 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sure was. Means that you have to use a RA xmember as the TA use the 2T engine with a front sump, from there all is identical as far as a 1ggte conversion is concerned. Just another point - if u don't lean to engine to the left, I think it is 15 not 20 deg, the gear stick is going to come out at a funny angle. It also will not clear the steering box or the nonnet.

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Re: 1g-gte installation guide Mon, 09 December 2002 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ddeane wrote on Wed, 06 November 2002 22:19

Carefull

Also there is no reason to put people to the expense of cutting mountings off the xmember as it will all fit. All u have to do is mig the hole in the brackets and redrill it 10mm higher and to use 18r mounts upside down. This lowers the whole lot by 20mm and nothing touches on the bonnet. I agree that it is a good idea to use new mounts.




craig can you explain this better please

pitures would be great

cheers
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icon10.gif  Re: 1g-gte installation guide Tue, 10 December 2002 04:40 Go to previous message
Ok Girls,

Having assisted in a 1G-GTE swap (Darrens Second 1G-GTE) and having just recently finshed doing one in Tina's RA28. There are a few things I'd like to mention.

Firstly there are many ways to Skin a cat ! There are also many ways to fit a 1G ! Hell the 1G has several different engine mount locations/types I am aware of and at least 3 sump configurations !

Ok first a few things about Tina's engine !

1# It sits low and pretty much dead flat !
2# It doesn't foul on the stearing at all (heat shield was trimmed tho
3# It uses 2T Rubber engine mounts on a TA23 Xmember
4# It is the front Sump variety
5# Bonnet will clear with Shitloads of room
6# Twin 10" thermo fans are fitted between the radiator and the engine Twisted Evil Twisted Evil (Was bloody happy with that )

Ok a few other points !

The spacer plate install is a tried and true method and works fine. HOWEVER the lower the engine sits the better the car will handle due to the centre of gravity being lower !

Heres a pic of Where Tina's sits

http://www.toymods.org.au/photo//Conversions/Tina's%201G-GTE%20into%20RA28/640/Nice%20n%20Low.jpg

With the engine level my Shifter sits sweet ! level and just a tad further back than normal (using the factory 1G-GTE W55)

There are pics of most of what we did in the new conversions gallery on the main site. Smile

http://www.toymods.org.au/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi? mode=view&album=/Conversions/Tina's+1G-GTE+int o+RA28

I am not saying Tina's install is any better than any other. What I am doing tho is illistrating a point. I am familiar with 4 different 1G installs all 4 are done very differently.

Daves sits on Hilux mounts, Phils still uses 18R mounts but the mounting point has been lowered and pushed back (As was Darrens second install) Tina's is a totally different due to the front sump but is also lowered and pushed back !

The key is to read as much as you can and then do what works for you Smile

Hope that helps guys and don't fight about it just accept that there are different ways to do it and all of them have there merits Smile





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