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QLD
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October 2004
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Wed, 09 March 2005 22:48
 
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u will also need ra40 tie rods...
ask joel ae86 for pics...he sent me some...but im not on my computer...
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Wed, 09 March 2005 23:13
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you will get approx 2.7 degrees without adjustable tops. with tops you can back it off a bit
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December 2003
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:27
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or only about 2 degrees if you are using ra60 struts.
i just got mine done yesterday 
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cambo
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May 2002
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 03:55
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ROSE JOINTS
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Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 05:49
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my car, and des's car, both have sigma arms, but his got a little more camberz due to the low coil overs
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 06:43
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fully sik. how long do the insides of the tyres last? how much longer is your braking distance due to lack of tyre contact patch on the ground?
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Location:
Melbourne
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January 2003
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 06:59
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Your get the inner tyre edge stuck in Melbourne's tram tracks with those huge amounts of camber  Braking in the wet Forget it , and the ackermann angle will make the car push on initial corner entry before the camber , added tyre slip angle advantage comes into it element mid corner .
In those pictures you must have used the 60mm longer than ae86 arms , sigma arms ? the ones where the caster arm mount is closer to the inner bush end than a stock ae86 arm therefore reducing the caster angle right ? Whats the lower arm angle ? has the roll center moved higher ? Haven't we covered all this on the ae86 suspension threads before ? Takai where's your link ?
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Location:
brisbane
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October 2004
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 07:03
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well im after a bit more camber too on my ke30, i think the
sigma arms fit too, and what exactly is rose joint?
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February 2003
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 07:12
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| improvedae86 wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 17:59 |
Your get the inner tyre edge stuck in Melbourne's tram tracks with those huge amounts of camber Braking in the wet Forget it , and the ackermann angle will make the car push on initial corner entry before the camber , added tyre slip angle advantage comes into it element mid corner .
In those pictures you must have used the 60mm longer than ae86 arms , sigma arms ? the ones where the caster arm mount is closer to the inner bush end than a stock ae86 arm therefore reducing the caster angle right ? Whats the lower arm angle ? has the roll center moved higher ? Haven't we covered all this on the ae86 suspension threads before ? Takai where's your link ?
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To be quite honest, there is hardly any braking disadvantage due to the camber, if there is, i can't notice it
ackerman angle? well, if you're talking about initial corner entry, then i've only noticed a HUGE imrpovement, the dash just stays flat and on an off camber corner it grips inside well.
The sigma arms are the one piece items, 30mm longer than the ae86 arms.
The castor arm mount position is not closer to the inner bush end, if i remember correctly, they are pretty much in the same position, or more outward.
I added 32mm RCA at the same time so it would have corrected the roll centre - the arm is pretty much horizontal on flat ground.
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Location:
Melbourne
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January 2003
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 08:04
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and using these arms allows you to wind in heaps more + castor than the stock control arms as the mounting points of the castor rods are FURTHER away from the bush end of the control arm that the stock arms.
but i agree its too much camber and ide like to back mine off to 1.5- 2 degrees neg, especially for street.
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Location:
Melbourne
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January 2003
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 11:12
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So moving the control arm forward , you are also distorting the bushing from running dead straight ? as the toyota stock front end arm is located this old school way with no camber/caster strut scrub axis as found in most 90's on cars .
The jdm 4age power ae86's offset strut top mount adds more caster by not moving the wheel further forward so it rubs the inner wheel arch liner or front bar mounting bolt . Now i remember why i ditched the complete front end again .
As soon as you relocate one adjustment it binds with another area of the suspension  . It's such a basic strut design but it does lend itself to any modification without screwing other areas of alignment . They really didn't have modification in mind i guess without replacing every component from there trd catalog . Lucky people have spent hours in pick a parts measuring all kinds of other vehicles suspensions to get around these problems .
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Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
January 2004
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Re: need..... more.... camber....
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Thu, 10 March 2005 11:25
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I have sigma arms for sale if anyone interested. They are a bit bashed, should be fine tho, sellign cheap.
hit me up with a pm if u interested.
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