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On Probation
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sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Location:
toowoomba qld
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March 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Sun, 20 March 2005 14:55
 
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I think maybe you clutch is on it's way out mate. Usally If you can get reverse without any sign of clash it's a sign the clutch is operating correctly,. But by the sounds of it the clutch may be gone.
Hope what ever it is it doesn't cost you too much 
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On Probation
Location:
sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Location:
Camden
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July 2002
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Sun, 20 March 2005 23:29
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check your shifter cables.
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On Probation
Location:
sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 04:22
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shifter cables look normal,
i heard it could be my gearbox mounts, anyone correct me on this? how could i check if its my mounts??
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 04:50
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let me see.
you engage second gear (or 4th) let out clutch, and then you have no forward motion...
must be gearbox mounts 
and you wondered what that nasty sound was? the engine and gearbox rotating in the engine bay perhaps?? 
sound slike broken cables (but you checked that), broken selector shaft, broken shift fork etc etc..
if the other gears work fine, the clutch is likely ok.
is odd that 2nd and 4th are gone, and not 1/2, or 3/4... maybe it's not shift forks...
it does sound like the shifter mechanism is the culprit.
time to get out the manual for your car and have a look
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On Probation
Location:
sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 05:00
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hey, thanks for the info!!!
i took the car for a quick hot lap around the block, to my suprise all gears were there again, but after a while disappered. i stopped the car and took off quick, throwing it into 2nd........ to my suprise again 2nd was there. it seems if i drive the car normal i have no 2nd nor 4th but if i give it a fang all gears are normal (but they do seem out of place).
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 05:05
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LOL, maybe you bent the shifter or the mechanism
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On Probation
Location:
sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 05:08
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ewwww that dusnt sound to nice, we noticed that when u put the car in 1st (handbrake up) and mock taking off the engine jumps like a pro being offered $100 for her skills.
is there any way i can check the shifter or mechanism, oh and i forgot the small detail that when it happened (last nite) i was giving a touch of a fang.
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Registered:
October 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 05:10
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| mick wrote on Mon, 21 March 2005 01:55 |
I think maybe you clutch is on it's way out mate. Usally If you can get reverse without any sign of clash it's a sign the clutch is operating correctly,. But by the sounds of it the clutch may be gone.
Hope what ever it is it doesn't cost you too much
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holy shit? i've been driving my car, and everytime i reverse, there's always gear crunching?
uh oh?
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On Probation
Location:
sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 05:29
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you iz da homie wif da massif dong. dem full sik crunchez r wikid
nice way to fuck your gearbox (as you have found out  )
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On Probation
Location:
sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 05:30
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i bought the car with 2nd and 3rd crunching already, i just make the best of it.
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Location:
Wollongong
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 05:32
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| xolent wrote on Mon, 21 March 2005 16:10 |
| mick wrote on Mon, 21 March 2005 01:55 |
I think maybe you clutch is on it's way out mate. Usally If you can get reverse without any sign of clash it's a sign the clutch is operating correctly,. But by the sounds of it the clutch may be gone.
Hope what ever it is it doesn't cost you too much
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holy shit? i've been driving my car, and everytime i reverse, there's always gear crunching?
uh oh?
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Crunching reverse is quite common...
Many cars are built with no synchro on reverse...
And even the ones with synchro, still crunch...
Its the fact that the counter shaft and the gear just don't perfectly line up and are spinning in opposite directions if you go to engage reverse quickly...
Reverse crunch, and even first gear engagement are quite common, ESPECIALLY on older cars
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Location:
Campbelltown
Registered:
November 2003
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 05:33
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i think someone has either been flat shifting and / or trying to chirp thirds.
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Location:
sydney
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 06:23
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like everyone says sounds very much like in the cable. the 2 cable is held by a U clip onto a brackets, one of clip of the cable has fallen off or is not clipped on tight/properly. check that first
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Location:
toowoomba qld
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 12:17
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Actually you will find my advice is also right as I learnt it from AUTOMOTIVE WORKSHOP BOOKS. One for my WB Holden and the other for my Camry as for the 91 Corolla having a common "Crunch in reverse" I doubt it as my Camry's from the same ere  hell even my old ute never crunched when put in reverse. I some how would doubt Toyota would make a better gear box for the Camry and give the Corolla a shitty one. Yes it is common for cars too "crunch" gears. But I was only trying too give some help. and I hate too say it that having a faulty clutch can also cause difficulty gear changing.
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Location:
toowoomba qld
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 12:49
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http://www.autobrakeservice.com.au/clutch_fault_di ag.php
Just some Clutch realted problems and yes having a faulty clutch CAN cause difficutly changing gears .
There can be many reasons for why something fucks up in a car
I will post MORE up when I find more about clutches
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On Probation
Location:
sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 13:13
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the funny thing is if u fang it the gears work fine but when u drive normal there is no 2nd and 4th
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Location:
BRAY PARK BRISBANE
Registered:
March 2005
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 22:29
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I ONCE HAD A 4 SPEED AND IT HAD NO FIRST OR THIRD (WHEN IN GEAR SAME AS IN NEUTRAL) BUT ALL THE OTHER GEARS INC REVERSE WORKED FINE. WHEN I PULLED THE GEARBOX OUT THE CLUTCH WAS ROOTED, SUPRISED A SMOOTH CLUTCH WORKED AT ALL. HOPE THIS HELPS
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On Probation
Location:
sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Mon, 21 March 2005 23:07
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crikeys,  clutch was dun not long ago, im takin 2 a mechanic 2day hopefully it wont be a big probo (im hoping its mounts)
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Location:
toowoomba qld
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Tue, 22 March 2005 01:15
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I still stand by my method of checking a clutch for correct operation. Nearly 2 years ago the fluid in my hydraulic system was just like mud?? (Previous owner) and I had trouble selcting gears and had even MORE trouble getting reverse, (But reverse worked fine.) I'm not saying you won't get reverse. but it's harder too put it in reverse.
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Location:
Coffs Harbour
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Tue, 22 March 2005 12:34
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right below 1st usually........
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Location:
Rockhampton QLD
Registered:
July 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Tue, 22 March 2005 14:01
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skilled drivers dont use the clutch.
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Location:
toowoomba qld
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Tue, 22 March 2005 14:07
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| Jorrs wrote on Tue, 22 March 2005 23:34 |
right below 1st usually........
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In my Holden ute it was above 3rd
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On Probation
Location:
sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: where did 2nd gear go?
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Wed, 23 March 2005 05:09
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hey!
we finally cured the problem, turned out to be the gear selector thingy that connects onto the box, a bolt had fallen out
$35 all up in costs
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