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ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 13:02
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Hi guys,
Im about to purchase 2 Sparco Ultra bucket seats, only problem is they are NOT Adr approved from what i can tell, but they are FIA approved. What i want to know is, if i get these seats installed and get an engineer to check them and sign them off as legal does that mean it doesnt matter if they are ADR approved or not? Ive been told this is ok.... i really want to make sure before i spend the dollars.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 13:09
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if your car has ADR's for the seats, then technically you can't ever get them certified...
you can't maek your car NOT comply with ADR's....
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 13:11
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sorry? can you explain in moron terms hah....
my car is an imported jap supercharged aw11 mr2... 15 year old import. Your saying if my current car seats met adrs then i cannot replace them with new ones that dont even if they are engineered?
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I supported Toymods
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May 2002
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 13:12
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just because a dicey engineer signs off on your sub-standard seats, doesn't mean courts/RTA will see them as legal.
afaik, unless they are ADR approved (and you cannot "get" a seat ADR approved - either they are or they arent) they're not legal to have in the car.
And insuance companies can most likely wriggle out of paying personal injury claims if you get hurt while sitting in the seat.
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 13:17
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I tried searching on the nsw rta site with no luck. I wanted to get some concrete information. 
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 13:19
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Does not matter if the seats are approved by God himself or the FIA, if they are not ADR'd you are/will be screwed especially in an accident.
The only ADR approved seats for your car are the original AW11 ones, imported into Australia. Find and fit them.
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 13:23
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my car doesnt have a compliance plate, it was never complied in australia because it was never sold in australia...
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 13:47
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ask an engineer if you need advice spanktown.
Toymods isnt allways the best place to ask for advice.
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 13:54
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It is at 12am.... 
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 15:47
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| 4agte wrote on Thu, 24 March 2005 00:17 |
ask an engineer if you need advice spanktown.
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As said above, Engineers are not the people to talk to about this kind of thing.
Talk the RTA!
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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September 2004
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 16:32
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| Spanktown wrote on Thu, 24 March 2005 00:23 |
my car doesnt have a compliance plate, it was never complied in australia because it was never sold in australia...
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It was imported but never complianced? What?
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May 2002
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 17:51
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you actually fit in those seats??
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Melbourne
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Wed, 23 March 2005 21:41
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sparco ultra seats should soon be adr - however getting the paperwork for a pair of seats purchased second hand should be interesting.
seat fitment would still have to be engineered to be fully legal anyway
fyi sparco seats which are adr: speed, sprint, fighter2, pro2000
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Thu, 24 March 2005 01:52
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I just rang the RTA technical division. I was told that SEATS are not adr approved its the mounts that are adr is for. The guy said that if i put the non adr seat in my car and get a engineer to approve the mounts and say that its safe, its perfectly legal. He kept saying that ADRs only apply the rails and mounting. IE if you use the manufacturers mounts that are adr approved then you dont need to get it engineered unless you modify the mounts in anyway.
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Thu, 24 March 2005 01:53
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haha ed, yeah i 'fit' but its very snug. But your heaps taller than me tho! you wouldnt even fit in an mr2. That velo seat was pretty damn nice!
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Perth, Western Australia
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December 2002
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Thu, 24 March 2005 02:51
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| Spanktown wrote on Thu, 24 March 2005 09:52 |
I just rang the RTA technical division. I was told that SEATS are not adr approved its the mounts that are adr is for. The guy said that if i put the non adr seat in my car and get a engineer to approve the mounts and say that its safe, its perfectly legal. He kept saying that ADRs only apply the rails and mounting. IE if you use the manufacturers mounts that are adr approved then you dont need to get it engineered unless you modify the mounts in anyway.
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Good, now get it in writing!
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Thu, 24 March 2005 03:51
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fwiw: when i put SAAS (reclinable) seats into the RA40, the ADR notice on the seats said they were only compliant if you used their (hideously overpriced) adaptor plate (nothing more than a steel plate with holes) to line up with mount points on the underside of the seat.
you still had to drill holes in the plates to join them to your rails (or the also hideously overpriced SAAS rails). I ended up using some rails out of an old corona wagon.
note: car was engineered/roadworthy insepcted in Qld.
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Thu, 24 March 2005 06:14
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I just spoke to revolution racegear and an engineer. Bottom line is what year your car is and what ADR applies to the year your car was made. ADR3a applied to my car, which was to do with seat mounts and load in a seat. The sparco ultra has FIA approval so therefore meets and exceeds the adr3a and so the engineer would be happy to certify it. Problem solved 
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Sydney
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July 2003
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Thu, 24 March 2005 07:14
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these wouldnt happen to be the same seats that were located in hornsby and goin for $750???
if so.... DAMN YOU!!!!!! 
ohwell.... some ppl have all the luck.
Cheers Will.
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Fri, 25 March 2005 08:48
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they might be? 
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: ADR Approval - Bucket Seat
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Sat, 26 March 2005 00:39
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the issue really is,
where do you find the little adr stickers lol
just kidding (consider this a freebump)
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