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510rob
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Are the R154 & W58 bellhousing flanges even similar??? (3SGTE RWD) Thu, 24 March 2005 01:09 Go to next message
As the title says, are the R154 & W58 bellhousing flanges even similar in any way?

I've been slowly building up a 3SGTE RWD setup for a little while, but now I'm at what I would describe as a pivotal point in the development of various bits, and that has got me thinking about abandoning my 1S bellhousing and starting a custom steel bellhousing. Because of that, I'm also thinking about switching my project around a bit to utilize an R154 transmission instead of a W58 transmission.

A few questions...

is the R154 THAT much stronger than a W58?
does the W58 shift THAT much better than a R154?
have people with 3SGTE/W58/RWD conversions had problems with transmission failures?
have people with R154 transmissions been that impressed with them?

The low-down is this - my motor should hopefully make well over 450BHP, so all of a sudden the W58 transmission is starting to perhaps become a bit of a liability - it would be much cheaper to just make the switch right now, sell the 1S bellhousing and two W58 boxes I have and start making a custom bellhousing for an R154 transmission.

Advice, criticism, reality-checks, slander, cussing, and general comments about this idea are wanted...
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Re: Are the R154 & W58 bellhousing flanges even similar??? (3SGTE RWD) Thu, 24 March 2005 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
They can be bolted to the same engine block, no?

That to me would make me think they're similar...

disclaimer: I know nothing about either gearbox, its just a guess Smile
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Re: Are the R154 & W58 bellhousing flanges even similar??? (3SGTE RWD) Thu, 24 March 2005 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its instant torque that kills gearboxes.
A 3SGTE isn't going to have gobs of instant torque.

You are going to get a nice 1/2sec of lag at least, which will load up the box.

Use the 1S, when/if you break a couple of W5x boxes, then upgrade to R154.

The extra effort involved in going R154 is a lot more than going through 3 bolt in W5x boxes.
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Re: Are the R154 & W58 bellhousing flanges even similar??? (3SGTE RWD) Thu, 24 March 2005 03:34 Go to previous message
I'd wait to break a W58 first...

Have a look at some info ed collected at the below link Smile
http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61 /gearboxes2.html

And for the love of god, I wish Ed would fix up his hosting!

Cheers
Wilbo
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