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 Vancouver
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 June 2004
 
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	| Are the R154 & W58 bellhousing flanges even similar???  (3SGTE RWD) |  Thu, 24 March 2005 01:09   |  |  |  
	| As the title says, are the R154 & W58 bellhousing flanges even similar in any way? 
 I've been slowly building up a 3SGTE RWD setup for a little while, but now I'm at what I would describe as a pivotal point in the development of various bits, and that has got me thinking about abandoning my 1S bellhousing and starting a custom steel bellhousing.  Because of that, I'm also thinking about switching my project around a bit to utilize an R154 transmission instead of a W58 transmission.
 
 A few questions...
 
 is the R154 THAT much stronger than a W58?
 does the W58 shift THAT much better than a R154?
 have people with 3SGTE/W58/RWD conversions had problems with transmission failures?
 have people with R154 transmissions been that impressed with them?
 
 The low-down is this - my motor should hopefully make well over 450BHP, so all of a sudden the W58 transmission is starting to perhaps become a bit of a liability - it would be much cheaper to just make the switch right now, sell the 1S bellhousing and two W58 boxes I have and start making a custom bellhousing for an R154 transmission.
 
 Advice, criticism, reality-checks, slander, cussing, and general comments about this idea are wanted...
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 Darwin, Australia
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 March 2005
 
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	| Re: Are the R154 & W58 bellhousing flanges even similar???  (3SGTE RWD) |  Thu, 24 March 2005 02:37    |  |  |  
	| They can be bolted to the same engine block, no? 
 That to me would make me think they're similar...
 
 disclaimer: I know nothing about either gearbox, its just a guess
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 Australia
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 November 2003
 
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	| Re: Are the R154 & W58 bellhousing flanges even similar???  (3SGTE RWD) |  Thu, 24 March 2005 02:48    |  |  |  
	| Its instant torque that kills gearboxes. A 3SGTE isn't going to have gobs of instant torque.
 
 You are going to get a nice 1/2sec of lag at least, which will load up the box.
 
 Use the 1S, when/if you break a couple of W5x boxes, then upgrade to R154.
 
 The extra effort involved in going R154 is a lot more than going through 3 bolt in W5x boxes.
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 Brisbane
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 May 2002
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