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improvedae86 wrote on Mon, 28 March 2005 15:23

Wasn't the ae86 driving club thing first started by Garth and Steve ? Anyway is hardly original is it Had a quick look and is it all just about queenlands related ae86 stuff . How many ae86 sites , forums have come and gone lately

well adam i didnt "start" it, its just a japanese thing i was getting everyone to put on their cars as a community thing

but people have claimed it as their own now..

yes its true about the sites coming and going. but hopefully my new project will be a stayer!

and the "admin" has deleted my posts in the forums about it too.

love that...

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mr2drift wrote on Mon, 28 March 2005 05:21

Who really cares if its not their idea? if your too slow to get you shit togeather, bad luck. at least its a spot you guys can talk without being ridiculed for liking the cars you like.... good luck to them....

No one really care , no one is winging?? , but why hide the fact by deleting posts Why not just admit that the idea started at toymods by a group of people from many states that are all ae86 owners . As far as the slow part i am sure with ae86drifts ability's that his site will be worth the wait , as well as really supported by ae86 drivers from more states than just one .

Yeah good luck to them so far from what i have read there is all just reconstituted information from other sites anyway , shit even club4ag is not getting many new posts and growing smaller everyday . And look at the amount of people in that country and there nothing new in the technical area's just the same crap how to fit trd short stroke shocks etc BORING .

This country per population must be one of the leaders in ae86 modifications , just look on club4ag for instance . Everyone of the people doing a sr20det ae86 swap has contacted me via this forum , i still get bloody emails from them over there dispute the fact that there cars are left hand drive . There has been some many new ideas conceived on this site its not funny , resent ones that spring to mind are gt's cressy 1uz wagon , that 4x4 rwd late celica that i still haven't seen a good picture off , and if we are narrowing it down to just the ae86 there's been everything from ca's to 4aggte to 1uz's done here.

As far as the ridiculing i got to say that i now see on average a ae86 or two a month damaged , my backyard normal is full of other peoples cars . Lots of this has been brought on themselves for thinking that there going to outdrift some s13 in a unpowered 4age , or drive up a mountain road taking people like takumi with a 77hp 4ac . Shit its only a very basic old rwd car .

And as far as there threads they are very high on the already covered to death postings , search please ! i done even look at ae86 topics in the tech section now as i am almost 99% sure its been covered already .Most of the people who really know there shit have stop posting here to because of being bombarded by PM's of "how did you do that" "what parts did you use" after it being stated in there thread ! What is it with the majority of the ae86 owners ? the ones who really use there cars and are moving foward just chat to each other on msn anyway and the information travels much faster and not to the time wasting hoards , who wouldn't thank anyone anyway .

And that really heads my point , as normal it looks like you steal a idea and don't thank anyone . I would love to know how long ago that logo was first used here , from my memory i would say late 2003 ? when did the jackets first get made too ? Steve ? they might be a collects item now as being the original items "often copied never duplicated ae86 driving club" , watch them steal that too

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okay.... ill explain it once again. in detail this time.

i obtained the sticker from an american guy on ebay + scanned the image sometime back in 2001 or even 2000.. i cant remember exactly... but the seller said it was a sticker that ae86 drivers all over japan were sticking on their car as a part of the 'ae86 drivers club' which later got changed to 'ae86 driving club'. trivia for you...

after i scanned it and posted it on my 'ae86 pics' site (site is/was crappy and gone by the way) it was out on the net and then eventually got used on the IDfamily site in Melbourne, unknowns to me also..

then when 2002 came around and i finally GOT an ae86 of my own i rescanned the image in hi-res and vectorised the image in illustrator and had it made into stickers for other AE86 drivers i came across in my travels. a 'secret ae86 club' of sorts

i distributed these stickers primarily @ the NSW ae86 cruises and events i personally organised and run (with help of the nsw ae86 army to promote it!

Then, when the photos of the stickers on the cars got out onto the web (mostly on toymods members rides), the adelaide and melb guys, and even my bro arena and my mate sam in QLD had them on their sprinters. They were all printed in white lasercut vinyl are mostly stuck at the bottom right corner of the driver 3/4 glass.

infact, if you search the for sale forums, you'll find my original thread selling them for $15 a pop (posted!)

so, as the logo isnt mine. i *not trying to sound egotistical here* really introduced it into the mainstream ae86 community here in aus.

when steve and the adelaide boys had their jackets made up i didnt even care that they were using it, as they weren't trying to make it into a logo of their own and claiming it to be a part of their own club, when really, its something for all ae86 owners to use freely without having to think what its representing apart from ae86 love and pride.

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Jusdrifn 86 wrote on Mon, 28 March 2005 23:14

cheers man we both love sprinters we shouldnt be fighting i just wanted to use that name because you and i both know, its originated in japan and that makes it cool, i would love the permission to use it but i just cant find it... i will try to think of something better but i just dont think i can top "the ae86 driving club"

well that difficulty is the reason why when you finally think of something, its the best thing ever and you wont ever get sick of it!

why get permission when you casn have something 100% of your own that you can be proud of.

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far more respect and admiration is gained from sweating it out and creating something new and innovative, rather than copying something else and passing it off as your own.

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