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no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Sun, 27 March 2005 15:17 Go to next message
well, 4 weeks of spraying, rubbing, spraying, masking, spraying, cutting and finally polishing... with big thanks to justin, michael, nev, and the guys at auto west paints.

primary colour: monaco red
secondary colour: hand mix monaco red + black

paint: protec acrylic (4colour/3colour+clear/5clear)
cut: farclea GIII (sp?)
polish: 3m imperial glaze


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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Sun, 27 March 2005 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shocked Shocked nice !
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Sun, 27 March 2005 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
more pics, can see the win percy stripe a bit better:


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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Sun, 27 March 2005 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hows the velo going?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Sun, 27 March 2005 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats my old sparco evo still in there...

the velo didnt fit so good afterall No No No

im going to try and find a sparco pro2000, and move the evo to the passenger's side.
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Sun, 27 March 2005 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Very nice... Evil or Very Mad Just look a bit naked without them flares. Don't listen to what JCMF says. You need those flares hehe.
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Sun, 27 March 2005 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Looks great. So that's why you've been so quiet lately eh? Laughing

I'm in the process of buying a house which has a lot of shed/garage space, and if that goes through I'll be embarking on a similar project. Nothing quite so attention-grabbing as bright red mind you, I think I'll stick with plain white. Razz
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Sun, 27 March 2005 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you squint a bit and turn your head to the side, that last pic almost looks like a ferrari...

Man that sprayjobby is nice for a backyard spray...
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey mate would it be possible for you to give me a breakdown of the spraying process? Im currently in the same boat and need a little advice,mainly in the areas of how many coats of colour,the percentage of clear to colour mix,and then the clear coats how much thinners to add,oh and then wether to cut back or not after the colour coats??? feel free to pm me the info if you like... Sorry to hijak but that spray job is just brilliant!! cheers
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haha, looks better than mine dude, there are so many things I'm not happy with that they will be fixing. Oh if only I trusted myself enough to do it myself.
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't trust myself in the slightest, but that's not going to stop me! Laughing
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 01:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That's freaking nice dude!

Can't say I could ever be arsed to do something like that... Laughing
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 03:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how com your engines yellow but the cars red?

change your mind halfway?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 04:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Mon, 28 March 2005 01:17



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That looks so mean!
Very nice
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if i painted the engine yellow, why would i want to paint the car yellow??? Rolling Eyes

only 80 year old ladies think that the one colour looks good from head to toe

solid colour paint- protec acrylic
thinners for colour- multipurpose no name
ratio of thinners : colour- 60:40
coats of plain colour- about 5, more on the roof and bonnet

halfway through the last spray pot of colour, i topped up with clear. half empied that pot, topped up with clear again, and once more half empited and filled. basic serial diution of the colour with clear.

then i did about 6-8 coats of plain clear on top of this - thick enough to rub back into.

clear- protec acrylic
thinners- protec premium thinners
ration thinners : clear- 60:40

rubbed back the colour+clear with 600 before applying the coats of clear. and due to a mistake, ALSO rubbed back the clear with 1000 before clearing again with 2 more coats.

rubbed back with 1200, then 2000 wet+dry

machine compunding with the farclea GIII, the hand polish

if i did it again, i would rub back more often between coaots with 600-800

dont forget - MUST use big compressor WITH a water separator!!

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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hot stuff ed Smile feel like spraying mine?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hawt doggy dog!

looks choice bru!
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I normally think ma61's are a bit dog ugly.. but this actually looks really nice, good work.
definately in the top 5
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Top 5 what?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
top 5 ma61's that are appealing
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wowee, looks awesome, especially the black tires agains the red, definately needs the flares, but shes awesome for now.
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks for that,once again top job
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
come out very very well Cool

helps when you know a spray painter Razz

brings back memorys of mine
.....sanding....painting.....sanding...a bit more sanding...a little painting...even more sanding...etc


now you just gotta not scratch it or dent it


how much did this end up costing you?? materials, etc.?




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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Verrrrrrrry nice, lotsa hard work gone into that one! I have to say that the flares really make the MA61!
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alchemist wrote on Mon, 28 March 2005 19:13

Verrrrrrrry nice, lotsa hard work gone into that one! I have to say that the flares really make the MA61!


You do realise ed has removed them?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmmmmm, yes I guess I did(kinda), but arn't the wheel arches more flared on a MA61 than a RA65 anyway? Even without the nice plasticy bits?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
maybe thats why it looks okay to me, cause theres no stupid flares
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
flares are yet to be finished, but will definitely be going back on Nod

looks too skinny without them. cant wait till the 235/17s sit in there too...

"helps when you know a spray painter" ??? huh?? this was a 100% dodgy backyard never-done-it-before paint job. but i did get it compounded and polished by a guy who knows what he was doing.

as for price?

um, about $400 in paint, clear and thinners
about $100 in paper, compounds, and polish
$100 in labour for the guy to compound and polish the thing

i also got a instant windscreens to remove the front and reer glass, then come back later and fit a spankers new windscreen and fit the old rear glass, so add another $400

whats that... about $1k

yeah, about right

and no, im never doing it again.

one car painted. been there, done that, never doing it again
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PS - no grandma wing
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's not a wing. It's a picnic table.
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Mon, 28 March 2005 01:17

and the guys at auto west paints.




my bad,

thought it was a professional spray painting place until i read it proply


i also think i that i have proved my point that i can paint a car....so i would proply never do it again...for what its worth, you get a car that looks great but you will be to worried about other people carelessly scratching or denting your car....or even your self mistakingly denting it.

my next car will be; no show, all go Razz

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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, I'm itching to paint my car, but I just got reversed into again a week ago. Noticed it when I was washing the car so I have no idea when and where it happened.

That's six times now in, how many years have I owned it? 8 maybe?

It's just another dented panel now. I can't imagine how heartbroken I'd be if I'd just had the car resprayed.

Oh, and out of those 6, guess how many people left their details?
Yup, none.
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nark wrote on Mon, 28 March 2005 22:28

Yeah, I'm itching to paint my car, but I just got reversed into again a week ago. Noticed it when I was washing the car so I have no idea when and where it happened.

That's six times now in, how many years have I owned it? 8 maybe?

It's just another dented panel now. I can't imagine how heartbroken I'd be if I'd just had the car resprayed.

Oh, and out of those 6, guess how many people left their details?
Yup, none.

do you leave it in "dangerous" places?
i always try and park my car totally away from harm
and i check it everysingle time i come back..
paranoid
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
heres a better pic of the win percy stripe::

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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
love it ed
fark!! noice!!

but whats a win percy stripe?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
still debating the decals - similar low profile colour scheme
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
and u didnt use por 15 for the paint as u did 4 the engine ?
why you decide not to use it 4 the car ?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Mon, 28 March 2005 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i used por15 in the prep of the tailgate (took a bath in it basically!), boot lining, and sills. i didnt need to use it anywhere else. the por15 then got primer'd over, and incorporated into the general prep work for the rest of the car...

por15 rocks, i use it wherever i possibly can Smile

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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message

Win Percy Decals ???[ 19 vote(s) ]
1.Yes 14 / 74%
2.No 5 / 26%

thinking about decals...

would keep the colours very low key... no whites or blacks, just similar low contrast shades of red, but enough to notice. and not all the decals either, and no race numbers. good idea, bad idea? remember, its a street car Nod

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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lots of stickers.

Then a ballsy 2J to keep the ricers honest.
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Tue, 29 March 2005 11:23

Lots of stickers.

Then a ballsy 2J to keep the ricers honest.


ballsy enough::


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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Good start! Very Happy

Going NA-T with ITBs GTR and GTi-R stylez? Confused

[Updated on: Tue, 29 March 2005 01:31]

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there is a good chance this will sound quite *good*

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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no, not NA-T

plain old NA. just got the plenum as it solves a bunch or airbox and cold air problems
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What is the plenum from? Nissan?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Tue, 29 March 2005 11:37

What is the plenum from? Nissan?


rb26

needs the inlet re-oriented downwards due to the L->R side swappage, but meh, thats easy enough.

or i might try and convince myself to run a panel filter against a vent in the bonnet, and keep the plenum poineted upwards like that. who knows yet
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If there is room, downwards and CAI through inner guard or out thru the radiator support panel. Is the battery on the passenger's side?
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
battery soon to reside behind passengers seat

but there is still the fuse box, break out box, radiator overflow and washer tank to contend with in that corner. yet to be figured out... minor details at this point
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That's detail bullshit, and when it comes to tin tacks, it'll fit anyway. Laughing

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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
where are the fog lamps.. i will buy one if u will sell it!!!
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Ed, did u paint the rear bumper Black or red ?

coz i know the rear end of Ma61's look like RA6X and i wanna see if it looks good being the same colour as the rest of the car ?

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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 03:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i spose it all depends on the main colour of the car.. i think bumpers and other accessories look good with that red colour, but mine is white, and white and black look good together... if all the accessories where white it looks a bit stupid
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im a big fan of contrasting colours to break up monotonous blocks of plain colour... so i did the bumpers black. a lot of the yanks seem to like colour coding both the front and back bumpers, and IMHO it looks pretty crap... just my 2c though

fog lights are to be refitted (though theyll be rather modified by the time they go back in)
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Tue, 29 March 2005 13:45

fog lights are to be refitted (though theyll be rather modified by the time they go back in)

Modified how, and why?
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gianttomato wrote on Tue, 29 March 2005 11:58

Got cams and buckets?


we need to talk about cams

jason was organising me the 1nzfe buckets, but has gone very quiet. im talking to him soon about my brakes (ahem, jason?) and ill get the low down on the buckets

how does 13mm and 310deg (246 @ 50thou) sound Evil or Very Mad
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 03:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Tue, 29 March 2005 13:47

Modified how, and why?


why? because they do SFA for casting light, and i do a lot of backroad country night driving, and dont want to fit a set of stand alone hellas

how? am grafting in some of those 200mm deep, narrow convex lens HID type high beam units into the rear body of the light. lifted them out of a statesman or something. theyre the same unit as the high beam lens from a jza80 supra. throw an amazing pencil beam Nod
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Re: no longer the world's ugliest ma61 Tue, 29 March 2005 04:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
YES

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ed_ma61 wrote on Tue, 29 March 2005 13:47

how does 13mm and 310deg (246 @ 50thou) sound Evil or Very Mad


Seems like a pretty aggressive profile. That's a lot of lift but interestingly, you have less duration than mine @ 50 thou (mine are 304*, 262* @ 50 thou, 11mm lift). You're trying to cram 11.75mm lift into less time than my total lift!! I fear for your valve seats. Where did you get the profile from? PM if you don't want it as public knowledge.

I have all my gear so I won't be doing it but have you investigated boring out the lifter bores and using some 3SGE BEAMS dual VVTi buckets? They are bigger (33mm? - Glenn will know) and will allow a nastier cam without the nasty acceleration and pounding. Nissan FJ20s have a 34mm bucket from memory. I suppose the limiting factor will be the bearing surface in the head for the cams might get a little narrow.
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