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Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Sun, 10 November 2002 23:15
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Hi Guys (and gals),
Just after some info on doing a manual conversion for my soarer...
As I'm not particulary good with cars mechanically wise, I would be placing this in the hands of a mechanic.
What I'm after is just an estimate on price to do the full conversion. Will I need a new ecu to do this, are there any other obstacles to this job.
What price for parts?
What price for Labour?
Can anyone recommend a shop to do this?
Hopping to do this for under $3500 as this is where the money from selling my bike (see cars for sale forum) will be going.
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Gold Coast
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November 2002
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Mon, 11 November 2002 01:18
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SSS Qouted me $2000 for a 5 spd ,Dont know how much u want to spend on a clutch (upwards of $1000+ for something that you wont be replacing in the next 3 months),Then u have toactually get the bits for the conversion,
Box $2000
Clutch $1000+
Flywheel $(NEW TOYOTA GENUINE)Good luck finding 2nd hand
pedal box $
Master cyl $
Ecu $
Im sure i have left many parts out including ur mechanics labour
i left prices off the last 4 items because u wont be able to find all these parts easily 2nd hand and toyota gen parts are a fuggin rip off.
You would be stupid if u did not buy a complete manual front cut from a soarer and have a spare 1j with auto sitting around
Sell that to recoop $1500-$1900$$$$$$And its starting to look like a cheaper conversion....
Not some ridiculous price....
I have looked into this already and its not a great subject for the average joe,its usually a big dollar expense,but if u have time and access and space yo should be able to pull it off .
Need a ute for front cut and then space to store all your extra goodies.(Struts and panels and dash,u will have a heap of spares)
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Mon, 11 November 2002 02:32
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hmmmm.... I really want to do this but it does sound a bit daunting.
Especailly want to do it since I was given an advanced driving course as a 21st birthday present. Would be much better to do it in a manual  .
Are you suggesting I get a half cut and replace the whole engine and gearbox or just take the bits I need. If I swap the whole lot I would end up with an auto half cut that could probably be sold for almost as much as what I paid for the cut?
I don't really have any space to do this in. I was hoping that I could find the half cut, have it delivered to a workshop and leave my car with them, come back a few weeks latter and have it all done. Yeah I'm dreaming aren't I.
Might have a word with my mechanic and see if he would take it on board. Would probably take to long for him to be able to do it.
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Gold Coast
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November 2002
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Mon, 11 November 2002 03:31
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Yeh its probably the smartest idea, If u can strip the cut and keep a few pieces at mates and family you should be sweet..
Try and organize someone to buy the cut from you for a cheap price (lose out a couple of hundred for quick sale)before you go ahead with this.
Its definately the way to go as you will have all the parts there and nothing needed to buy,The mechanic would probably like the idea, if u go ahead with this let me know how u go..
i will be very interested
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Mon, 11 November 2002 04:00
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Will do....
And if you ever get that box for a carton of beer, don't let me know.... as I've probably already spent $1500+ on one 
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Mon, 11 November 2002 07:43
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In my opinion (and after about 12 months research) the conversion isn't really worth it.
I am a manual transmission lover, and bought an auto Soarer (no manuals around when I got mine), so I'm not 'anti-manual'.
With the kits available now from MV automatics, you will be quicker than the manual Soarer virtually every time. For $380, this is a complete bargain!
I've decided to put the idea of converting mine to manual on the shelf for another year or so, go with the auto upgrade for now, and start looking for a 97+ Soarer/Supra in manual. At least in the meantime, I'll have a pretty fun (fast) and cruise car.
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Mon, 11 November 2002 09:26
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I'm aware that there are cheap upgrades available for the auto.... its probably just as fast in stock form any way (no loss of boost during changes etc.)
This isn't really a speed thing, its just I enjoy driving manual transmission cars, and I think I would have a lot more fun in my car if it were a 5spd.
I'd have to disagree with you about it not being worth it. Lets say the conversion cost $5000 which I hope is being generous. The average 5spd soarer can sell for almost $10000 more Australian Dollars than a similar condition Auto trany.
This would be one of the only mods you can do that actually increases your cars value more than the original outlay and in my opinion this is a big bonus.
As much as it disapoints me, I can't think of another mod you can do to a soarer that will actually increase the value in this way. eg you'll never see the same amount of money in resale value for a Front mount intercooler.
Your thoughts?
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Wollongong
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Mon, 11 November 2002 11:52
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With some of the prices of Soarer's I've seen lately, I don't really know how valid that statement is. I know that manual ones are usually worth more, but I doubt that putting in a manual tranny will increase the value of your Soarer by $10k (or even $5k).
I'm not against the conversion (hell, I wanted to do it for the last 12 months), but for the price, it might just be easier to sell and buy a factory manual one. At least you know it was manual from the factory, with manual ECU, manual version of the digital dash (yes, it is slightly different) etc.
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Mon, 11 November 2002 12:38
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Soarer
For the record the digi dash on the Auto and Manual are the same. The are two manual/auto versions depending on Trim - GTT and GTTL.
Parts list for conversion:-
Soarer specific R154 5 speed with suitable bellhousing
and suitable shifter - not MKIII Supra bellhousing and shifer
Cross member
Mount
Clutch
Pressure plate
Thrust bearing
Thrust fork
Flywheel & HT bolts
Spiggot bearing
Tailshaft
Clutch pedal assembly
Clutch master cylinder and shield
Solid hydraulic line
Rubber hydraulic line
Hydraulic line mounts
Slave cylinder
Shifter Insulator and rubber boots
Shifter console surround
M/T ECU
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Mon, 11 November 2002 13:36
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Thanks for all the info guys.....
I think if I'm going to do this (very serious considerations here) I will either go the half cut path or sell up and buy a factory manual.
Either way I've taken a deep breath (thanks to my girl) and think it would be a wise decision to put this money towards a deposit on my investment property.
Don't worry I'm going to get an extra 5K out so I can still do the conversion latter.
So unless a really good oportunity comes up soon, this will have to wait until mid to late 2003.
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Cairns
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June 2002
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Tue, 12 November 2002 02:55
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With the kits available now from MV automatics, you will be quicker than the manual Soarer virtually every time. For $380, this is a complete bargain!
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What kit would that be ?, how does it upgrade from the standard ???
Thanks
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Tue, 12 November 2002 03:03
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I think they just Raise the stall converter and make the shifts a bit quicker.
I'd get one of these but I don't want to be chirpin' into second every time, as far as I'm aware it makes every shift quite jerky, regardless if you have your foot flat down or not.
That's the beauty of a M/T. If you want to snap into second so hard your passengers suffer mild wiplash you can, but you can still drive like a granny if you want.
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Re: Manual Conversion for Jzz30 Soarer
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Tue, 12 November 2002 09:18
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 Big money, the more expensice car you buy the more you spend on it! Glad my soarer is manual.
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