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February 2005
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silly idea really....
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Tue, 29 March 2005 06:58
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hey guys,
does ne one know where i could get a 3hp horizontal motor bored n stroked? ahh somewhere eastern subs of melbourne
also what would u think of attaching a smog pump (pump that pumps air into exhaust for emitions stuff - lol) to the motor to give it more power?
i also had contact with guy in states who has made a efi system for one du u reckon its worth doing just for kicks for a home made go kart???
i know all this is a stupid idea but ha i want to do it n just want to know what people think!
cheers
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Location:
cambo
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May 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 29 March 2005 07:36
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dunno bout your other Q's, but by smog pump, do you mean one of those air pumps like on old holdens they use to reduce emissions? if yes, i dont think it would pump enough air for the engine to consume, meaning it would restrict it rather than give it 'boost'.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 29 March 2005 09:35
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well supposidly they produce 7psi worth... but im not sure but i have stuck it on a bench grinder o find out how much air it pumps n i must say there is alot of air there....
but yeah i would really like to find out where i could take the motor n rough how much its would be?
thanx for the help though
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Location:
cambo
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May 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 29 March 2005 09:43
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hair driers flow alot of air, but you wouldnt put one of them on a engine. it may seem like its flowing alot of air, but how much does an engine need? i may be wrong tho, but i dont think it would work.
im sure you could get your engine bored, stroked not as likely.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 29 March 2005 10:40
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hence y im asking n where it could b done but not really ne ppl r looking at this thread which i was hoping they would 
well ive spoken to ppl around the glob about the smom pump as a supercharger n suposidly they work a treat for such small motor so ill give it a wirl n see wat happens.
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Location:
Adelaide
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July 2002
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Brisbane
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June 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 29 March 2005 11:14
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ive heard of it being done. using air pump as s/c on little motors
i say go for it, its worth a shot for a bit of fun  everyone loves fun
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 29 March 2005 11:21
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^^^ agreed but does ne one know ne places where i could get the motort bored out n get new piston gasket etc??
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 29 March 2005 11:56
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Well, won't be cheap, but maybe try a place like Crankshaft Rebuilders.
And let me come have a look at the result
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Brisbane
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June 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 30 March 2005 04:41
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mower places, and other small engine sellers should be able to point u in the right direction
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canberra
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March 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 30 March 2005 04:55
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I've played with a mates old victa running 5psi using a toyota EGR pump it worked well and only took one night to fit.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 30 March 2005 06:16
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thanx for the name ill have to get in contact with them and see wat happpens....
but yeah just want extra gunt outa the thing coz im not the lightest of people n my rear axle weighs a tonne.....
but yeah i thbought about using a 2:1 ratio for the compressor but im not sure if it will lag the motor too much a guy in the states had it at 4:1 n the motor would just crank over then die... so ne ideas on what ratio would be good?
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S.E suberbs, Vic
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December 2003
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 30 March 2005 07:34
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I wonder how one of these pumps would go on my 40cc scooter? I know that usually 2 stroke engines don't lend themself well to conventional superchargers normally
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 30 March 2005 09:20
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| Sam_Q wrote on Wed, 30 March 2005 17:34 |
I wonder how one of these pumps would go on my 40cc scooter? I know that usually 2 stroke engines don't lend themself well to conventional superchargers normally
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well it would work to a point but not sure how well...
does ne one else know of ne other places or somebody who has done it.
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Location:
cambo
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May 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 30 March 2005 10:35
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ok i was wrong, and im glad  this smog pump your talking about, is it like a conventional air pump? i wonder how much hp they would cost to run.
55gas, what was the engien used with? ive thought about toying with mower/sniper motors on various things, would be good to see some pics/articles on projects people have done.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 30 March 2005 11:30
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yeah u could say its a conventional air pump! just pump thats pumps air into the exhaust to lower emitions (was the thing to do for the old cars)
ill be doing some work on this smog pump idea to another motor in the next couple weeks.
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 30 March 2005 14:59
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I used to play with this sort of crap when I was in primary school! Did things like making a different head for a victa, played with the ports+carb a bit, etc. - damn good fun, maybe I need to get back into it again
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Thu, 31 March 2005 06:26
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oh yeah its great fun!
i got a pic of wat the motor will b going on but the go kart isnt finished but ill post up a pic of it ne way... n i dont need ne crap about it coz ive had plenty.
i know the thing is really wacked i know dont need to tell me!
ill get some pix of the motor n stuff later
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Location:
canberra
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March 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Thu, 31 March 2005 06:29
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The engine was an old 165 2 stroke victa and the pump came from a cresida a fan belt ran off a pulley on top of the cooling fins drawing through the original carby.
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canberra
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March 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Thu, 31 March 2005 06:31
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LAY OFF THE CRACK. 
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Thu, 31 March 2005 09:12
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| 55gas wrote on Thu, 31 March 2005 16:31 |
LAY OFF THE CRACK.
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hahaha maybe if i was on it i would lay off it but i cant by it coz im like broke n most money goes to grog and parties.....
n this stupid project for school
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Location:
Adelaide
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July 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Thu, 31 March 2005 09:29
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holy shit, i hope u dont wanna turn a corner in that kart!
i wanna see this super charged motor tho! my mates got a little scooter/bike thing that culd do with sum more grunt!
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Thu, 31 March 2005 13:23
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The Drift Chair(tm)
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Fri, 01 April 2005 05:42
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| mrshin wrote on Thu, 31 March 2005 23:23 |
The Drift Chair(tm)
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ill try - and prob end up in a hospital with broken arm or something lol! might have bit too much traction with them rear wheels not easy to slide when u dont have much power! maybe if i had a motorbike engine
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Location:
perth
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: silly idea really....
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Fri, 01 April 2005 11:38
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get hold of an old petrol blower vac. you know those ones made by stihl? a mate at tafe rekons he did it to a postie and got the carby to run ritch to compensate. dunno how but. lol then you dont have to worry about it draining power from the motor cause itll have its own.
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Location:
melbourne
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Sat, 02 April 2005 00:19
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ahhh ive been told that doesnt work because the blower doesnt force enough pressure (doesnt hold for long)ive heard every thing from hair dryers to geting another motor and run at same rpm n the fin from fly into a chamber in stick into the intake of the other motor.... some really stupid idea... oh also the favourite (have carb next to u and get ur deo and spray into it haahhaaha i laughed so hard when i heard that...)
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Perth,western australia
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: silly idea really....
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Mon, 04 April 2005 00:01
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you could always try a compressed air bottle.
like a dive one.
just rig it up like a nos bottle.
it will only give you a burst but hay.worth shot...
Dom
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Mon, 04 April 2005 08:13
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nah sounds a little too dangerous for me...
but ive started constructing a smog pumped engine with a mate... its his 4ho ohv motor its cool as... just gota make up mounts to sit carb properly etc (carb is off a 2 stroke 100cc motorbike engine - n it revs out hard) so... prob find out tomoz or the next day wat will happen.
prob by wednesday it will b goin but im hoping by tomoz.
i was aking the intake stuff n mate was making mounts n crap.. we also made a straight out pip about 40cms long its awesome sounds like a harley n it back fires really nioce.. lol responce has change so much too
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townsville NQLD
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: silly idea really....
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Mon, 04 April 2005 10:54
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brilliant 
i never thought of that before but im going to get the air pump off the cressida (donor car) for some fun
i work at a motorbike shop ....i wanna try put one on a motorbike now 
great stuff ....keep us posted on how it goes
my boss from the mbike shop used to bomb up his ride on lawn mowers .....he run them on ave gas, ported, and soforth
good luck with the project
brett
PS, the centre of gravity on that gokart looks a bit dangerous
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Mon, 04 April 2005 11:26
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graviety is fine, just makes it all more enjoyable lol....
yeah i want to do it too a motorbike engine but mate n i have lawn mower engine coming out of out ears so when we need parts (Cranks - machine them n stick in another motor n bobs ur uncle) lol
yeah should b good should have it running next couple ays... i seriously reckon somebody should make gearboxes for briggs motors or "lawn mower engines" from like racing perposes.... be so much better rather than just single gear speed crap lol.
but shuld b good ill hopefully get some pics tomoz
i think about this more and more and relise how stupid i sound lol still good
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Mon, 04 April 2005 12:45
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| h3ff44 wrote on Sat, 02 April 2005 10:19 |
oh also the favourite (have carb next to u and get ur deo and spray into it haahhaaha i laughed so hard when i heard that...)
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that's fuckin gold
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 05 April 2005 00:19
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^^^^ bloodystupid if u ask me..... dont even know if it would work prob just flood the thing....
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 05 April 2005 08:21
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i got some pics of my supercharged motor its off its nuts......
its loud n it hurts
reckon we r getting so good boost... but need to work bugs out.... as it hard to start with smog on... when its cold.. ahhh yeah havent run it yet with smog on the whole system coz it just dies... we think we got a leak in the inet of the motor kinda gay... heres so pix...
JUNK YARD WARS EAT YA HEART OUT....
looks retarded but its cool though... im a lil scared of it coz the smog pump n the engine noise is so WOW 
WELL ill get some good video n get some one to post it up on there site n link it here
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Location:
melbourne
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 05 April 2005 08:22
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and yes we r missing the ohv cap thing....
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Location:
cambo
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May 2002
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 05 April 2005 08:46
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thats so ghetto.
brilliant!
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Location:
townsville NQLD
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: silly idea really....
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Tue, 05 April 2005 10:08
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hahaha...nice
i went an got me a MX62 smog pump today. i put it in the lathe @ 1250 rpm and there was a decent amount of air coming out, plenty of pressure anyway....until it flung out 
at the ratio you got, there would be heaps of air
nice work
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 06 April 2005 00:38
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man theres a fair amount.... but think smog is bit dodgy... makes clunking sounds (does urs?)
i prob had it running on a air con unit a 2hp electric motor n i connected to that too test n it had alot of air.... also when had it connected to motor n just seeing how much air it made it was enough to push ur air a fair way make (my hair was test rig - long hair)
mate is making a new intake for it because it has leaks n wasnt running properly so ill find out tomoz wat has happened to it...
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Location:
melbourne
Registered:
February 2005
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 06 April 2005 01:55
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is that a household vacuum cleaner hose you're using?
Looks like it!
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BRAY PARK BRISBANE
Registered:
March 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 06 April 2005 02:04
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thats fu@#ing mad man by the way nice boots!
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Location:
Perth, WA
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December 2004
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 06 April 2005 03:02
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cool idea, i was thinking it would be cool to hook up intake to aircon, cold air...
and add a big tank of plain compressed air, and use it sorta like NOS to jack up the pressure...
bah, stupid
Good luck!
Eldar.O.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 06 April 2005 06:25
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there not my boots but my mates! hes a funny lookn kid so i tried to keep him out the shot lol...
well i cant say much for myself lol....
nah it aint vacum pipe work but air intake off lawn mowers - we used what we had lying around it had a bit of a leak but fixed it with abit of electrical tape lol...
soon it should b running properly..
COMPETETION!!!
who ever makes the wackiest coolest lookin motor (small cc motor)with the most amount of powah wins!!!!
what do u win....? ahh u can walk to the shops n buy ursaelf a chocolate bar lol
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2003
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 06 April 2005 06:54
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I wanna see this thing on a dyno.
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BRAY PARK BRISBANE
Registered:
March 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 06 April 2005 07:03
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someone organise a $15 trophey cause we gona have a dyno comp on our hands
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: silly idea really....
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Wed, 06 April 2005 07:41
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let the fun begain.....
any means to make more power is legal...
should there b a size limit on the motor to be used?
its only a 118cc 4hp so i dunno if there should b a limit on the size of engine...?
if all runs will do drag race lol..
 oh its on
 hahha
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