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Kilsyth, Melbourne
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September 2004
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Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 05:40
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hey,
been go karting on the weekend and was wondering about what is the best way to take a hairpin. is it to go out wide enter corener close to the apex and then come outside like a normal turn?
Cheers, Calvin
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 05:43
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For a tight hairpin, the driver purposely turn in late, continuing to the outside of the bend in order to create the widest possible angle. In this way, he can treat the remainder of the operation as he would a fast corner. Indeed his intention must be as quick as possible out of the hairpin. To a certain extent, in order to achieve that, he mustn't hesitate to 'sacrifice' the entry phase by turning in somewhat sharply. As soon as the apex has been passed, the driver; who has in fact transformed the exit phase into a fast corner, can already begin to accelerate. 
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Location:
Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 06:02
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| smt_007 wrote on Thu, 31 March 2005 15:43 |
For a tight hairpin, the driver purposely turn in late, continuing to the outside of the bend in order to create the widest possible angle. In this way, he can treat the remainder of the operation as he would a fast corner. Indeed his intention must be as quick as possible out of the hairpin. To a certain extent, in order to achieve that, he mustn't hesitate to 'sacrifice' the entry phase by turning in somewhat sharply. As soon as the apex has been passed, the driver; who has in fact transformed the exit phase into a fast corner, can already begin to accelerate.
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More or less, but in a lower-powered Kart you've GOT to keep your mid-corner speed as high as possible, coz the engine just won't have the guts to haul you out of the corner. You're better off keeping the line as smooth as possible, your speed as high as you can, the distance travelled as short as possible.
For sure though, once you're in something powerful enough to "drive off" the turns, the above-mentioned technique works great, especially if you've got loads of power and not much grip (the opposite of a Kart).
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Location:
Brisbane, QLD
Registered:
February 2003
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Re: Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 07:40
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Pffft
I just nail the accelerator(as in most corners) and turn as quick as i can and get some fully sik mate dor-ift0 happening.
I'm quick as light.
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2005
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Re: Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 07:43
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hey
like the pic but in a go kart brake late then as you start turning into the hairpin accelerate out to help the turn in. timing is everything. minimise slide even though its fun.
my 2c
Spence
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Location:
Brisbane, QLD
Registered:
February 2003
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Re: Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 07:48
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You always go faster sideways...
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Location:
Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 07:54
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Yup - Most corners I only brake for 2-5m in a straight line, and get the rest done while turning in. Never coast through any part of the corner - Kart chassis' are made too grip-up under throttle.
Going into the fast "loop" off the back straight at Rochester, I give the brakes a quick stab at turn-in, then ride the corner out on 30->100% throttle. It's SaaaWEEET ! !
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Location:
Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 08:47
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Go karts wouldnt be the same as cars for their braking factor. Depending on the corner and kart little to no braking might be required (unless your charging in from a straight!)
That diagram is good, but remember you could also use it in reverse in order to overtake someone  braking at apex to block their line and stop you from going heaps wide.
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Location:
sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 14:35
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I went on the gokarts last weekend and found that no braking was required. It didn't slide very much at all. Didn't have to let go of the accelerator the whole lap. This is at the Big kart track landsborough.
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Location:
Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: Racing Lines
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Thu, 31 March 2005 14:50
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chris , you gotta try somewhere with 2-stroke carts then - at archerfield, no brakes means "cart, meet tyre wall"
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Location:
Sydney
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February 2005
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Re: Racing Lines
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Fri, 01 April 2005 12:03
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use the loud pedal and turn the wheel full lock, which way depends on how sideways the cart is.
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Location:
Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Racing Lines
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Fri, 01 April 2005 12:14
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| unforgiven wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 22:03 |
use the loud pedal and turn the wheel full lock, which way depends on how sideways the cart is.
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Hey - When'd you see Me drive my old kart on rooted, 3yr old tyres? 
Note: You also need the brake pedal, to get it sideways INTO teh corner too! The throttle is for HOLDING slides . .  MwuuHAhhahahaahaaaa . .
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