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May 2003
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WHY POPUP CARS...
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Thu, 31 March 2005 18:12
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are virtually illegal and virtually inable to be imported 
A laser gun’s ability to target is greatly based on the color of the vehicle. The lighter the vehicle, the easier the targeting. A white colored vehicle is the easiest target for a laser gun as the color white reflects all colors including laser’s infrared light. The darker the vehicle the more difficult it is to target. A black car with no chrome, no front plate, and pop down headlights is virtually impossible to target with laser.
quoted from http://www.speedzones.com
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Location:
Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Thu, 31 March 2005 22:22
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Cars with pop lights are virtually unknown now maily because it's impossible to make them conply with pedestrian impact laws with the lights up.
Think about it:
I'm still waiting for them to start defecting everybody with 'sleepy eyes' on their 180s...
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Location:
Wollongong
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March 2005
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Thu, 31 March 2005 22:42
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if they started defecting everyone people would be VERY VERY pissed off
so i doubt thats gonna happen
-Gaz
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Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
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January 2005
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 00:12
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I never really thought about this...
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 00:33
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they simply wont be able to go defecting people for having pop up lights.
as the lights met relevant ADR's at the time of manufacture they are ok. if you tried however to retrofit pop up lights to a car that was manufactured after the change in rules then by all means you'll get done.
these sort of changes in design rules are not enforced retrospectivly. for instance you cant be busted in your 1990 car for not meeting 2005 emissions standards, but you can certainly be busted for not meeting 1990 standards.
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Location:
Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 00:39
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I'm talking about defecting people for having lights in the sleepy eye position, which the car was never complianced or tested with..
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 00:48
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it is no more dangerous than driving around with the pop-ups all the way up
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Location:
Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 01:50
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I suppose you can provide pedestrian impact tests to back that up?
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Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
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January 2005
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 02:03
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Lets try 
I'll drive down the sidewalk for a couple of hundred metres. 
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On Probation
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Hobart
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 03:46
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LOL OMG.... i think its alot safer if u just don't hit a pedestrian in the first place... regardless of hitting them with your pop ups up or not... i don't think a pedestrian is really going to like it either way
cause they will;
1. go flying 100 metres up the road in front of u
or
2. go flying up the bonnet over the roof and down the back of your car... so really i don't spose it matters, did the ADR people think about that one ??
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Location:
1st street on the right
Registered:
November 2002
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Fri, 01 April 2005 03:59
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Trust me. Even if the crown had popups, the bloke I hit would still be pretty fucked (impact >70k's).
ADR's wouldn't have prevented his 2 fractured legs, and arms and vertabrae and skull...
I guess we'll be seeing a lot of mattblack cars around soon. No lights or chrome
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I supported Toymods
Location:
sydney.au
Registered:
August 2002
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 05:29
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*goes to paint trueno jet black*
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 08:21
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| Ben Wilson wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 11:50 |
I suppose you can provide pedestrian impact tests to back that up?
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yes... as the lights can be moved from the downwards position to up whilst in motion then they would have to be adr compliant in all positions. so it would be possible to be driving turn your lights on and at the instant they were half up run into someone. to have them passes they would have to pass saftey standards in *all* positions. keeping in mind sleepy eyes are not somehting you mod the car to do its simply a matter of flicking the switch at the right time.
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Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 09:43
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its bull bars on fucking redneck shitbox fourwheel drives that are going to kill people, not small, plastic pop up lights
sleepy eyes rule they should make a comeback!
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Location:
Brisbane, QLD
Registered:
February 2003
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Fri, 01 April 2005 09:47
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| celica_cam wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 19:43 |
its bull bars on fucking redneck shitbox fourwheel drives that are going to kill people, not small, plastic pop up lights
sleepy eyes rule they should make a comeback!
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Got rice?
I do agree about bullbars do an obscene amount of damage when they become "people bars".
That said i can see how "small, plastic pop up lights" could also do some decent damage due to the fact that on my car they're not really plastic like.
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Sat, 02 April 2005 15:41
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yeah, mine are kinda very hard plastic surrounded in metal, with metal plates and metal brackets
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Location:
NSW Engadine
Registered:
June 2003
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Sat, 02 April 2005 23:27
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I never thought you could literally have a car thats stealth...
I wanna spray my sprinter gunmetal gray and bend the panels in all different directions so that im invisible...
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Location:
Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Sun, 03 April 2005 00:14
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Maybe tiny airbags could be fitted to the popuplights
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Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
January 2004
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Sun, 03 April 2005 00:40
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| bathurst-91 wrote on Sun, 03 April 2005 09:44 |
Maybe tiny airbags could be fitted to the popuplights
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You're an ideas man 
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I Supported Toymods
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
December 2002
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Sun, 03 April 2005 08:13
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| toof wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 18:21 |
sleepy eyes are not somehting you mod the car to do its simply a matter of flicking the switch at the right time.
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Are you sure you can do that? i.e. quickly flick the headlight switch on and off to half raise the popups.
I was under the impression that everyone who did the sleepy eyes thing used the manual adjustment screw thingies under the car to lift up the headlights an inch or so.
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Sun, 03 April 2005 08:42
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nope on my old at184 you could turn the light ON and they would lift up. turn them back to FULL-OFF then as they were lowering switch the control knob forward one stop to HOLD-OFF, beteween FULL-OFF and park lights.this will stop the lights coming down further holding them in sleepy eye mode. obviously the timing of this will determine how sleepy they are. no wiring mods, no crawling under the car to get the manual wind up.
the aw11 isnt as easy becasue the order goes. FULL-OFF, PARK, ON, HOLD. so you cant switch beween FULL-OFF to HOLD without going back to ON. so you need to wind them.
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Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Sun, 03 April 2005 23:16
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Can doing this damage or wear the mechanism that controls the headlight function?
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Mon, 04 April 2005 00:20
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couldnt see how, if it ground or shuddered like the gears were forcing thw rong way or too far when you then went and put the lights up/down then i imagine yes. but mine never made any odd noises if i did it so i wouldnt imagine it should damage anything.
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Location:
Newcastle, Australia
Registered:
March 2005
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Mon, 04 April 2005 07:28
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Whats to stop them aiming the laser at your number plate instead?
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Mon, 04 April 2005 07:37
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victoria offer a old style black and white enamel plate that is on my TO-DO list
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Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Mon, 04 April 2005 10:08
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I did sleepy-eyes for the first time tonight when I got home, jumped a bit early and they'd hardly moved but yes it is possible.
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Location:
Tassie
Registered:
October 2003
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Mon, 04 April 2005 10:42
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why would u want ur car to look like a stoner ?
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On Probation
Location:
Hobart
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Mon, 04 April 2005 10:43
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my car does look like one!
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Location:
Tassie
Registered:
October 2003
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Mon, 04 April 2005 10:56
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your looks down syndrome
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On Probation
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Hobart
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Mon, 04 April 2005 11:04
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thats because hte light is lazy!! it was in a fight with a trailer... but its the previous owners fault
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Location:
Land of Oz
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:02
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Hi,
I suppose it's the same reason (pedastrian safety) why fender mirrors are frowned upon.
So, in the interests of pedastrian safety I've removed the springs from mine and have made them rigid an unyielding under impact. However, as a blunt impact can cause serious damage to the human body, I have installed razor sharp edges at the front of the mirror mounts. This will ensure a clean and quick servering of any limb that impacts the mirror. A cleanly severed limb is easy to re-attach and does less damage than a blunt impact. I think I'm going to patent and tradmark this wonderful idea.
seeyuzz
river
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Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:56
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| Mookie wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 20:56 |
your looks down syndrome
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Fuck that was a call and a half!!!
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On Probation
Location:
Hobart
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Tue, 05 April 2005 07:23
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my advice is... never get pop ups when something goes wrong.. like mine... u r in a world of hurt
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Location:
Coffs Harbour, NSW
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Tue, 05 April 2005 11:11
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| river wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 16:02 |
Hi,
I suppose it's the same reason (pedastrian safety) why fender mirrors are frowned upon.
So, in the interests of pedastrian safety I've removed the springs from mine and have made them rigid an unyielding under impact. However, as a blunt impact can cause serious damage to the human body, I have installed razor sharp edges at the front of the mirror mounts. This will ensure a clean and quick servering of any limb that impacts the mirror. A cleanly severed limb is easy to re-attach and does less damage than a blunt impact. I think I'm going to patent and tradmark this wonderful idea.
seeyuzz
river
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ah, river, river, river
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Location:
Tassie
Registered:
October 2003
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Wed, 06 April 2005 07:48
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you bunch of chicken fuckers !
that sleepy look thing you do with the headlights is addictive.
I've done it to the 3 celica's at my house plus both of my mates celicas.
My dad doesn't know it's me yet he thinks his car has a mind of it's own.
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Location:
Ballarat, Vic.
Registered:
September 2002
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Wed, 06 April 2005 08:52
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easy on AW11
Pull blinker stalk towards you so lights popup. as the go down spin the headlight knob one position to left. Tadaaaaa SLeepys.
A mate actually got fined for driving with sleepy's in a carpark. Was at night time but the carpark was fully lit like and bright as anwyay. Mind you the cops a power tripper.
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Location:
Brisbane, QLD, Australia
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: WHY POPUP CARS...
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Wed, 06 April 2005 10:14
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Is that what people do?
It makes it look like they're broken to me. I don't know why people would intentionally make their cars look like morons by popping up their lights like that.
Probably the same reason people put those eyelid things on their headlights. Fuck those are retardingly stupid looking.
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A mate actually got fined for driving with sleepy's in a carpark. Was at night time but the carpark was fully lit like and bright as anwyay. Mind you the cops a power tripper.
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Didn't think cops had authority in private carparks..... Unless it was at the local centerlink or other government carpark.....
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