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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Mon, 04 April 2005 12:20
 
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| BlackSupra wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 22:00 |
| Allan wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 21:02 |
Well 90% of people on here with MZ10's and MA61's will never experence a corner "properly" nether drift nor drag requires great handling, Ed's maybe an exception but I was not about to fang his car around dubbo hard enough to experance the cornering his negitive camber is set for (11 on the oh-fuck-o-meter)
Im interested in what you have to say ed im shure you have probably delved deeper into the ma61's suspension then anyone else.
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What is the definition of a proper corner experience?
With tokicos, standard height king springs, rear strut brace, PU bushes, rebuilt steering rack, JZ power steering pump and 16's with decent rubber, the 61 is a fairly well handling car... i reckon i have been to the place of corner experience.
Sway bars would be taking it to the next level of handling, but it would then be a snap oversteer machine!
And if i had any more rear neg camber, id want shares in a tyre company.
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Ive got the standard lows neg camber issue.. with dunlop fm901's.. the tyres have lasted me a year and a half and the wear isnt that bad in an uneven sense
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Mon, 04 April 2005 12:22
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| Jag7799 wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 22:20 |
Ive got the standard lows neg camber issue.. with dunlop fm901's.. the tyres have lasted me a year and a half and the wear isnt that bad in an uneven sense
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There are standards or lows.
Standards drop the car an inch, lows drop the car waaaay too much to be beneficial for rear neg camber.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Mon, 04 April 2005 12:24
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| BlackSupra wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 22:22 |
| Jag7799 wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 22:20 |
Ive got the standard lows neg camber issue.. with dunlop fm901's.. the tyres have lasted me a year and a half and the wear isnt that bad in an uneven sense
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There are standards or lows.
Standards drop the car an inch, lows drop the car waaaay too much to be beneficial for rear neg camber.
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by standard i meant usual
ive got the usual low neg camber issue
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Mon, 04 April 2005 15:31
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| hamgatan wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 18:38 |
no seriously. you could have tokico's and strut braces galore, but ma61's only handle well if you change the blimmin steering rack. period.
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What the fuck is wrong with the stock steering rack?
Besides its uber ability to leak oil, its fine.
And Allan, you have gone way off track here.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Mon, 04 April 2005 22:04
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300kg weight reduction from MA70 to MA61 is huge. The generic styling of the MA70 is boring compared to the flared wedge the MA61 is. It is classic, while the MA70 looks like a stretched 2nd gen RX7. You want more structural rigidity add a cage, the MA61 will still be far more lighter than the MA70 and stiffer. As for the rear suspension differences, the MA61s is only bad for dragging, but who wants to drag when corners are more fun.
I've driven both stock and both mildly modded and I still prefer the MA61. The lighter it is the more fun it is to throw around a corner.
Lets compare apples to apples.... MA61 or Z31? MA61. MA70 or Z32? Z32.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Mon, 04 April 2005 23:55
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I'll take the Pepsi challenge. Which MA70 owner wants to challenge my MA61 to a mountain run? 
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 00:38
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| Norbie wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 07:55 |
I'll take the Pepsi challenge. Which MA70 owner wants to challenge my MA61 to a mountain run?
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Hehe, Frank and I were talking about this last night.
We know what will win.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 00:42
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| Norbie wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 09:25 |
I'll take the Pepsi challenge. Which MA70 owner wants to challenge my MA61 to a mountain run?
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Having been for a quick blat  in Norb's car, (but not a proper fang in a MA70) it handles VERY well given that the tyres are really only mid-range.
I personally think that the MA70 can handle very well (given the suspension setup) and yes McPherson struts and the IRS in the MA61 are based on manufacturing cost and ability to bolt together, but 300kg and some basic chassis work such as Ed, Norbs and I have done, will I believe deliver a better handling/braking package than the MA70 through the Adelaide hills "Classic Adelaide Stages".
That said, I agree with Allan in that most people don't know how to drive their car at the limit, let alone how to set it up for that matter, so that it does handle/brake properly (witness dorifto's that reckon 1000lb/in spring rates are streetable in a 2000lb car).
In the end, they are 2 different cars, and they each have their advantages.
I'll be happy with my MA61 and that is what matters 
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 00:52
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 10:42 |
| Norbie wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 09:25 |
I'll take the Pepsi challenge. Which MA70 owner wants to challenge my MA61 to a mountain run?
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Having been for a quick blat in Norb's car, (but not a proper fang in a MA70) it handles VERY well given that the tyres are really only mid-range.
I personally think that the MA70 can handle very well (given the suspension setup) and yes McPherson struts and the IRS in the MA61 are based on manufacturing cost and ability to bolt together, but 300kg and some basic chassis work such as Ed, Norbs and I have done, will I believe deliver a better handling/braking package than the MA70 through the Adelaide hills "Classic Adelaide Stages".
That said, I agree with Allan in that most people don't know how to drive their car at the limit, let alone how to set it up for that matter, so that it does handle/brake properly (witness dorifto's that reckon 1000lb/in spring rates are streetable in a 2000lb car).
In the end, they are 2 different cars, and they each have their advantages.
I'll be happy with my MA61 and that is what matters
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you had to play the good guy at the end didnt you... really touched my heart... 
 haha..
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 00:58
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| CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 23:31 |
| hamgatan wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 18:38 |
no seriously. you could have tokico's and strut braces galore, but ma61's only handle well if you change the blimmin steering rack. period.
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What the fuck is wrong with the stock steering rack?
Besides its uber ability to leak oil, its fine.
And Allan, you have gone way off track here.
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thats what i mean. around 75% of the ma61's ive seen have fucked steering racks, or theyre on their way out.. theyre great when the steering rack is all peachy and replaced.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 00:59
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Whilst the ma70 vs ma61 debate is all well and good it is a departure from the original question of whether to keep the ma61 and swap a big Hp 7m in or to keep the worked ma70, already equipped with 7m. One of these cars comes factory built like a brick shithouse and has a proven ability to handle the motor it currently has. The other does not - and Norbie admits that driving a 400Hp ma61 has it's fair share of brown pants moments.
Don't be so quick to write the ma70 off because it's 300kg heavier than an ma61. With that much power the car will feel a lot lighter and they do handle surprisingly well.
It's one question whether to built a big Hp ma61, and another whether to butcher a big Hp ma70 in order to do it. If you were building a powerful ma61 from scratch I'd be looking in the 2jz direction rather than a 7M.
Sadly both cars have their fair share of die-hard enthusiasts who swear black and blue that their car is better. 
Getting either car engineered/regoed and insured will be another problem altogether!
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 00:59
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| Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 10:22 |
you had to play the good guy at the end didnt you... really touched my heart...
haha..
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Um no. I really do like my car and wish it was bloody going. 
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 04:02
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lol
why cant you guys all just get along?
soarer owners dont fight like this, we can feel the love.
Norbie, my car is close enough to an MA70, except for the pimp factor > than MA70, ill accept that challenge 
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 04:38
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 14:02 |
soarer owners dont fight like this, we can feel the love.
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*feels love*
now someone give me fuckin sideskirts for my Z20!!!!
heh
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:39
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 13:32 |
lol
Norbie, my car is close enough to an MA70, except for the pimp factor > than MA70, ill accept that challenge
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Boy, will you ever get hosed ......
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:40
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:09 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 13:32 |
lol
Norbie, my car is close enough to an MA70, except for the pimp factor > than MA70, ill accept that challenge
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Boy, will you ever get hosed ......
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its funny how you make that assumption without ever seeing me drive
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:43
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:39 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 13:32 |
lol
Norbie, my car is close enough to an MA70, except for the pimp factor > than MA70, ill accept that challenge
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Boy, will you ever get hosed ......
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what he said, that being said if my ma70 was not beging for a fresh engine, auto, tires and springs id give it a go but lack of work has taken its toll on my cruiser
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:48
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:10 |
| bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:09 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 13:32 |
lol
Norbie, my car is close enough to an MA70, except for the pimp factor > than MA70, ill accept that challenge
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Boy, will you ever get hosed ......
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its funny how you make that assumption without ever seeing me drive
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Knowing how Norb's car actually goes, our previous 'discussions' re suspension rates, I'll stick with my previous conclusion.
You'd get hosed, badly.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:48
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 14:02 |
Norbie, my car is close enough to an MA70, except for the pimp factor > than MA70, ill accept that challenge
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"IT'S ON!!"
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:50
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thats ok can blame it being a soarer when he loses with his poofy 2ltr... 7m-ge > 1g-gte
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:51
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:50 |
| Allan wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:13 |
| bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:39 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 13:32 |
lol
Norbie, my car is close enough to an MA70, except for the pimp factor > than MA70, ill accept that challenge
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Boy, will you ever get hosed ......
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what he said, that being said if my ma70 was not beging for a fresh engine, auto, tires and springs id give it a go but lack of work has taken its toll on my cruiser
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what who said?
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:51
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ahha
i remember taking norbie on when he had stock susp and 400 hp and and i had susp and stock 4age in my ae86
was quite interesting outcome 
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:54
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:21 |
ahha
i remember taking norbie on when he had stock susp and 400 hp and and i had susp and stock 4age in my ae86
was quite interesting outcome
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enlighten me simon, what was the outcome?
QLD has talent i have seen this, but SA drivers own the winding roads
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:55
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| Allan wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:20 |
thats ok can blame it being a soarer when he loses with his poofy 2ltr... 7m-ge > 1g-gte
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oh yeah, isnt an *Z20 lighter than a *A70?
you bellend
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 05:58
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i agree with getting hosed lol
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:02
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| Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:28 |
i agree with getting hosed lol
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quiet you
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:07
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:55 |
oh yeah, isnt an *Z20 lighter than a *A70?
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Z20 = luxo-barge version of A70. How would it be lighter?
As for my encounter with Simon, I can't specifically recall the incident but I imagine I got left for dead in the corners and very rapidly caught up in the straights. The old poopra was far from inspiring around corners with its shagged 20yo suspension, but it sure did move in a straight line.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:17
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| Norbie wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:37 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:55 |
oh yeah, isnt an *Z20 lighter than a *A70?
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Z20 = luxo-barge version of A70. How would it be lighter?
As for my encounter with Simon, I can't specifically recall the incident but I imagine I got left for dead in the corners and very rapidly caught up in the straights. The old poopra was far from inspiring around corners with its shagged 20yo suspension, but it sure did move in a straight line.
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see thats the problem...people think becuase the Soarer is the luxury version is it heavier...I had mine wieghed and with about 15-20kgs of camping gear in the boot and full interior it came in at around 1450kg's, an MA70 comes in at around 1580kg's does it not? youre forgetting an MA70 has a massive glass hatch, also the difference in wieght factor for 180sx's and Silvia's.
Also mine is having the rear half of the interior stripped out, I am hoping to keep it around the 1410kg mark, with the 1JZ and R154 installed
Dont be too quick to knock the soarer, dont forget, as I stress you have yet to see me drive, i didnt make assumptions about me beating you, everyone else made the assumptions about you beating me...
I hear you got new suspension? what is it?
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:21
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hmmm lets see 3.0l turbo inline six in light car versus 2.5 turbo inline six in heavier car i'd say norbie is the winnah.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:40
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 15:51 |
hmmm lets see 3.0l turbo inline six in light car versus 2.5 turbo inline six in heavier car i'd say norbie is the winnah.
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in a straight line maybe...
youre forgetting there are corners involved. My car will be making rougly 210-220rwkw, maybe more come nationals (read: bigger turbo) so there is the power defecit made up, I have nearly $2500 worth of suspension also and I have the best wheel aligner in SA setting up my car, dont make too many assumptions 
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:41
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noebie has coilovers in the MA61 unless your forgetting something.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:41
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 16:17 |
I had mine wieghed and with about 15-20kgs of camping gear in the boot and full interior it came in at around 1450kg's, an MA70 comes in at around 1580kg's does it not?
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Your Soarer is a GZ20 which has the lightest engine and transmission. Try comparing your car to a GA70 Supra for a fair comparison. The Soarer IS heavier, and having seen both up close it's pretty obvious why.
My new suspension consists of Chaser coilovers, 300 lb/in springs, Koni dampers, adjustable strut tops (currently set to -3 deg) and adjustable rear camber will be installed shortly. Don't forget the brake upgrade as well. Unless you've spent a LOT of time money setting up your Soarer's chassis, you won't be able to touch me for turn-in or mid-corner grip. I also have the superior power-to-weight ratio. So basically the only way you could win is if I'm the worst driver in the world... and hey, maybe I am?
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:42
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heh no offence dude. But Norbie's car in its state now? I reckon you'll still get hosed with $2.5k worth of suspensions.
But thats just my opinion.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:45
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 16:40 |
My car will be making rougly 210-220rwkw, maybe more come nationals (read: bigger turbo) so there is the power defecit made up,
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I have 236rwkw and I'm at least 200kg lighter. How do you figure you've made up the power defecit?
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I have nearly $2500 worth of suspension also and I have the best wheel aligner in SA setting up my car, dont make too many assumptions
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I've spent more than twice that on the front end alone. Who's making assumptions now?
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:50
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norbie setup a camera pointing out the hatch so we can watch him disappear.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:53
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when i get the ma70 i'll take her for a few runs in the hills and find out how good it is. if i decide to keep it and am very used to it i'd be keen to take norbie on only if he takes me for a fang in his.
Spence
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 06:54
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TeH turbro can nevah loose!!1!!111!1
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 07:01
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| Norbie wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 16:15 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 16:40 |
My car will be making rougly 210-220rwkw, maybe more come nationals (read: bigger turbo) so there is the power defecit made up,
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I have 236rwkw and I'm at least 200kg lighter. How do you figure you've made up the power defecit?
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hey corona what do norbies balls taste like? you seem to have had them in your mouth for most of this thread...
what have you done to spend $5K on the front end?
if its all you have mentioned then it seems to me like you are getting ripped off
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 07:02
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Haha nice photo GT. Were you leaving that R34 behind...?
Oh.. And I volunteer to film the encounter between Norbie and Mr 1ggte. Maybe with fat me in Norbie's car it would make the challenge a little more fair.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 07:08
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Mr 1GGTE,
Regardless of what you have spent and how well your car will go, Norbs has been driving his car for some time now so knows it's limits really well.
And fark me it is bloody fast.
A lot of money on suspension does not necessarily mean much. What are you getting done for $2.5k ? Spring rates ? Dampers ? Brakes ? Tyres ? Brake pads ? Suspension settings ? Diff ratio ?
Norbs has spent more, but that is basically his whole front end and it has been done properly.
Still reckon Norb's would win by a counrty mile.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 07:10
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norbie must have pretty big balls for me to suck them all the way from nsw when hes from qld.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 07:14
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 16:38 |
Mr 1GGTE,
Regardless of what you have spent and how well your car will go, Norbs has been driving his car for some time now so knows it's limits really well.
And fark me it is bloody fast.
A lot of money on suspension does not necessarily mean much. What are you getting done for $2.5k ? Spring rates ? Dampers ? Brakes ? Tyres ? Brake pads ? Suspension settings ? Diff ratio ?
Norbs has spent more, but that is basically his whole front end and it has been done properly.
Still reckon Norb's would win by a counrty mile.
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nolathane bushes, whiteline swaybars, 300mm brakes, EBC pads, Cusco Zero Coilovers (unknown spring rates, soon to be rectified ), tyres will be Toyo Proxes and the car will be running 3.5 neg camber at fron 1.5 at rear with 8 deg castor left and right and 1mm toe out, all the settings will be dialed in at AVS Suspension, scotty really knows his shit.
Dont forget im not saying norbie will not win, as he does have some serious weight advantage there, but i really dont think its going to be as unfair as you people think
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 08:02
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torque wins races......but in this case it would seem to be 'talk' wins races.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 08:27
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 08:44
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what's with all this talk of corners???
Straight line is the real shit! 
And for that I will be putting money on Norbie's car.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 09:12
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Meh....I only dress up in drag.
If I were MR 1GGTE I would be doing this about now.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 09:25
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| Chris Davey wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 18:14 |
what's with all this talk of corners???
Straight line is the real shit!
And for that I will be putting money on Norbie's car.
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as would i...in a straight line of course
GT you have issues
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 10:05
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carn' dave put the grunter 2jz-ge in the Mk p00 show these turbo boys
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Tue, 05 April 2005 10:09
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| Spence wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 16:53 |
when i get the ma70 i'll take her for a few runs in the hills and find out how good it is. if i decide to keep it and am very used to it i'd be keen to take norbie on only if he takes me for a fang in his.
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you could allways just stick club rego (not shure about SA road laws) on the ma70 keep it strictly for club events - probably save your licence!
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 10:48
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how hard is it to get rid of the extra weight in a ma70. is it just cause its a big car and the chassis is heavy or is it all the extra bits that makes it heavy? just wondering cause instead of making the ma61 a dedicated track car i could make the ma70 one instead....down the track.
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Tue, 05 April 2005 10:56
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apparently the drivers seat requires 2 people to move it! then there are 6+ speakers so LOTS im guessing can be done to trim an ma70
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 11:32
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plexan glass in the rear hatch, chip out all the sound deadening, remove the door trims, fuck off the stereo, get rid of carpet, etc etc...
if you want to go crazy you can do stuff like fibreglass front and rear guards, bonnet, carbon fibre dash, etc etc but that shit costs big big $$$
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Tue, 05 April 2005 12:13
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yeah i know if i remove all that it'll be lighter but once that is all removed is it still a relatively heavy car? is it really a bulky car or is it just all the extra stuff thats in it that makes it heavy?
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Tue, 05 April 2005 13:36
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If you have the chance, have a good look at the underside of an MA70. Chassis bracing everywhere, heavy-duty suspension components, enormous cast-iron diff housing, 6 cylinder tractor engine... everything about this car is industrial-grade (apart from the headgasket of course). Yes you can lose a lot of weight by stripping an MA70, but it will still be substantially heavier than a stripped MA61.
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Tue, 05 April 2005 13:47
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the suspension can be taken care of with a set of JIC alloy adjustable wishbones, and a decent set of coilovers as they are usually quite light (i noticed this when i ripped out my KYB stuff for the cusco items ) but the chassis bracing and the diff is something you dontreally want to get rid of as it would be more beneficial to keep it in, or maybe replace it with lighter alloy items but then again big $$ come into account.
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Tue, 05 April 2005 21:30
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| gianttomato wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 18:42 |
If I were MR 1GGTE I would be doing this about now.
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I love it !!!!
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Tue, 05 April 2005 23:43
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| Allan wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 20:26 |
apparently the drivers seat requires 2 people to move it! then there are 6+ speakers so LOTS im guessing can be done to trim an ma70
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It only takes one reasonably sized person to move the drivers seat but it's a prick of a job. Disconnecting the electrics is bastard too with those bloody connectors toyota only seemed to use in the ma70.
I had to pull the drivers seat out and lift the carpet to change the handbrake cable once. Bastard of a job. Stangely enough I found a small bag of white powder stuck under the carpet - spoke volumes for the type of person who owned ma70's at one stage or another! Still, if you moved the drivers seat of a ma61 you'd probably find a grannies handbag and reading glasses!!
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Re: 470hp conversion or sell ma61
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Wed, 06 April 2005 00:23
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[quote title=lumpy wrote on Wed, 06 April 2005 09:13 if you moved the drivers seat of a ma61 you'd probably find a grannies handbag and reading glasses!! [/quote]
Ummm, don't you drive a BA Pord Palcon ..... having sold out of the Toyota game 
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Wed, 06 April 2005 00:50
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Hey I drive it - technically I don't OWN it! I still have a tamiya scale model of a Group A Ma70 thus am still a toyota owner
Actually, due to someone crashing into the BA (whilst it was parked - AGAIN) I am driving the crash repair loan "car" - an EB Falcon. It's just an embarrasingly shithouse car that Ford should be ashamed of. 
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