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kdogg
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icon5.gif  4k gearbox question Thu, 07 April 2005 05:17 Go to next message
hey guys will a t-50 bolt up to a 4k?
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pro_ke
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Re: 4k gearbox question Thu, 07 April 2005 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
not without the correct (rare) bellhousing

k40 or k50 are a more realistic option
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oldcorollas
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Re: 4k gearbox question Thu, 07 April 2005 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
there is a cable clutch (very rare) and a hydraulic clutch (not as rare) bellhousing available.
what are you offering for a hydraulic clutch version?
Cya, Stewart
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rollin_stock
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Re: 4k gearbox question Thu, 07 April 2005 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just for a bit of info, where did the t50 get used with the k bellhousing? funny the cable clutch version is rarer than the hydraulic, is this because it was made for the earlier k series and then the hydraulic was for late model vehicles with k motors like lite-ace etc?? would be good to have a hydraulic clutch i reckon.
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oldcorollas
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Re: 4k gearbox question Thu, 07 April 2005 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cable was KE35XX (afaik) which came with leftover T50's. i know of at east two in existence.
the hydraulic comes with liteace (i think) and it has "5K" printed on the bellhousing.

[Updated on: Thu, 07 April 2005 11:47]

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rollin_stock
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Re: 4k gearbox question Thu, 07 April 2005 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ive been looking for a liteace with a 5k for the elec dizzy, (bought one from aeke in the end) but only found them with a 4k would this have the t50? is the t50 longer than the k boxes? sorry about the bombardment of questions but cheers stewart!
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rollin_stock
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Re: 4k gearbox question Thu, 07 April 2005 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry, do you mean with 5k on the engine or box?
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Re: 4k gearbox question Fri, 08 April 2005 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
need more info check out this link if you haven't already

http://superjamie.net/oldcorollas/
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Re: 4k gearbox question Fri, 08 April 2005 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
this site had good ifon on the differences of the two 5 speeds t-50 and k-50
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Re: 4k gearbox question Tue, 12 April 2005 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slightly related question...

The age old question, will a k50 bolt up to a 4a? Will it bolt up to a 4a if you put a t50-4a bellhousing on it?

Cheers,
Kev.
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oldcorollas
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Re: 4k gearbox question Tue, 12 April 2005 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phrostbyte wrote on Tue, 12 April 2005 22:31

slightly related question...

The age old question, will a k50 bolt up to a 4a? Will it bolt up to a 4a if you put a t50-4a bellhousing on it?

Cheers,
Kev.


the age old answer, have you ever seen a K50 with a removable bellhousing?

fwiw, i took a pic with my hyd KtoT bellhousing mated to a celica T50 the other day.. won't get the pic up on site for a week or so tho....
the K BH is significantly smaller than a T series one...

Cya, Stewart
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Re: 4k gearbox question Tue, 12 April 2005 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sad thanks...
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Super Jamie
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Re: 4k gearbox question Wed, 13 April 2005 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you can get those bellhousings in new zealand, i'm chasing some up at the moment, you might also want to try club-k.co.nz forums

there are two companies in new zealand that make bellhousings to put a W55 supra gearbox behind a 4k. what sort of insane K motor would need that, i don't know, but the guys on garagedori.com could probably hook you up. be prepared to pay several hundred dollars tho

as stewart will testify, how long your gearbox lasts behind your worked 4k greatly depends on how you drive it. if you go around flatchanging at 8500rpm then the teeth tend to get a bit crunchy, as stewart and i well know. if you drive more sensibly, then you can have a gearbox last you many years, even a second hand one

angela in perth has a ke10 with a turbo 5k making like 180rwkw or something stupid - with stock gearbox, stock diff, and she has no problem because she doesn't dump the clutch or do burnouts

for what it's worth, 4 speeds are known to be tougher than 5 speeds, so if you keep breaking 5 speeds, consider changing up

i personally am just going to get a 5 speed rebuilt, new bearings, turn the layshaft around, do some mods to the synchros and hope that holds up
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oldcorollas
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Re: 4k gearbox question Wed, 13 April 2005 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i got my bellhous8ing from Andrew Vibert on these forums....
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Purple_Beasty
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Re: 4k gearbox question Wed, 13 April 2005 09:25 Go to previous message
Phrostbyte wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 00:31

slightly related question...

The age old question, will a k50 bolt up to a 4a? Will it bolt up to a 4a if you put a t50-4a bellhousing on it?

Cheers,
Kev.


Yes and no.

It has to be a K50 from an A series motor. In NZ these are commonly found in the 3A powered AE85. There are a few other cars that have them as well.

Callum
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