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Ta22lover
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4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Thu, 07 April 2005 17:51 Go to next message
Hi

Im trying to decide what engine to put into my ta22.

i have been thinking about using my 4age, but it doesnt really give me the power and torque im looking for, i also been considering using my 2t with a turbo mod, but it doesnt seem like the best idea either.

Im hoping to get an engine with around 160-170hp, so i have been looking at the old supra 6's 5m 7m etc, but how much job is it to drop this into my ta22? is it a whole lot worse than using my 4age?

with a 7m i guess i have the option to use a autotransmission, will this fit the tunnel on my ta22? is the supra autos good trannys? with for example 7m and auto, will my car still be able to burn some serious rubber?. will my diff with 4,11 ratio still be good on a 6cyl, or do i need to get down to 3,9-3,7?

My criterias for engines are, Cheap, easy to get, need to fit my car without enourmos ammount of hours and money.

Feel free to give me some tips and ideas Very Happy
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Thu, 07 April 2005 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mate the 3TGTEU is 160HP in stock form at the fly which is roughly about 110HP at the wheels. it is pretty much a straight drop in other then the fact that the passenger side engine mount needs to be shifted 2" out to allow room foir the turbo oilreturn line

you cant get easier and cheaper than that. also the 3TGTEU is quite a torque motor from what i have heard but not sure as havent driven mine yet Confused

further more with already forged internals, getting more power isnt that hard from these motors and they can handle a pounding too.

the stock celica g/box fits straight on (isnt the best to use, but will do for short term) and also the diff is the same story

EDIT: easy to get................................. not really anymore but you can still find people selling them... iv got 2 of them but not selling eother Evil or Very Mad

[Updated on: Thu, 07 April 2005 19:35]

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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Thu, 07 April 2005 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi

That engine would be a good option, but i have never seen one for sale, never even seen one at all here in Norway, so i think it will be nearly impossible to get, unless i import from somewhere else.. and then its not cheap anymore either.

hmm any other good ideas? Very Happy
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Thu, 07 April 2005 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stay away from any 6 if you value handling. A 4AG of some description would be your best bet. I've done a RWD 3SGTE conversion into a 22 but while the results were awesome, it's not what you would call cheap or easy.
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Thu, 07 April 2005 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4A-GZE would be just the ticket, compact powerful and good torque for its size. You really need something quite small to fit in a TA22 engine bay without a lot of effort, so forget about six cylinder engines if you want a relatively easy swap.
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Thu, 07 April 2005 22:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
VN V6. It'll rip great skids. Razz

If you were up for the Pepsi challenge, consider one of the Toyota alloy V6s. Otherwise what the lads have already said applies.

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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 08:50

VN V6. It'll rip great skids. Razz

If you were up for the Pepsi challenge, consider one of the Toyota alloy V6s. Otherwise what the lads have already said applies.

I have a feeling VN's will be hard to come across in Norway. But good suggestion otherwise.

A 1MZ swap would be the shiznit. If I wasn't already committed to the 18R-G turbo path I'd have a crack at this with my RA23.
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 10:46


I have a feeling VN's will be hard to come across in Norway.



Where did you get the Norway snipet from? Laughing

Definitely give the 1MZ a looksee - will require some work to convert it to RWD.
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ta22lover wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 06:46

That engine would be a good option, but i have never seen one for sale, never even seen one at all here in Norway,

Pay attention young man! Razz
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
please someone do a 1MZ, would be perfect!
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Give me the car and the budget to do it and your wish is my command.
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 12:43

Give me the car and the budget

You forgot time. Considering how quickly your existing projects are moving, methinks some extra spare time will need to be forthcoming if such a project has any chance of being completed before the end of the decade. Razz
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Laughing
Crown is on the road and the Corona, well, I just need to put the grunter bottom end together......

Believe it or not, I actually feel like I don't have a challenging project at the moment.
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
As soon as I get my hands on a 1GZ I'll stuff it in an envelope and send it down to you. 700hp NA JZA80 please - that challenging enough for you? Shocked
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hehehe....we think alike.....that is all.
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think 1ggte would be nice here.
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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rolling Eyes

Norbie wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 08:45

You really need something quite small to fit in a TA22 engine bay without a lot of effort, so forget about six cylinder engines if you want a relatively easy swap.


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Re: 4cyl vs 6cyl in ta22? Fri, 08 April 2005 08:52 Go to previous message
yeah i figured a 1g would be small enough.
if it will fit in a ke30 i'd assume a ta22 wouldn't be too small
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