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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 13 November 2002 08:52
 
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Those are the standard faces just painted 
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 13 November 2002 09:03
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are you serious... shane i never know when to believe you 
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 13 November 2002 09:39
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You can believe me this time mate I am serious 
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Wed, 13 November 2002 09:40
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Dont listen to Shane
Listen to me
They are just the original ones made white
Im thinking of doing mine Blue....
im wondering what youd use to change their colour
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 13 November 2002 09:42
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I'm serious they are painted!!! Ask the man himself!
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 13 November 2002 10:00
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Dont listen to shane
They are probably painted
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 13 November 2002 11:27
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what is the best way to do paint the dials?
how do ya pint the lines and numbers?
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 00:48
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I'm serious they are painted!!! Ask the man himself!
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hrmmm when you say "the man".. are you refering to yourself or the owner of the car?
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 01:02
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I mean the owner of the car! Tim Frost.
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 03:57
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ohok hahaa... nice, well do you know how he did it?
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 04:14
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I cant remember. His car was in Hot4's a while ago.
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 04:16
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really.... i have nearly all the hot4's mags... since NO.1 any idea what month of what year??? and do you know him??
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 04:51
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No I dont know him and I cant remember what issue its in, but I could find out if you sell me the january 2002 issue
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 04:57
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hahaha good old shane.. always in for the scam 
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 05:33
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Dammit, I might have to get on the Hot4's forum and post there!! Someone must have a a copy they dont want! 
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 05:52
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there is also a web site for timbo.....um, he's also on the yahoo egroups...for classic_celica..
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 07:12
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yeah that'd be the one...
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 10:50
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he was in issue 44, i think it might have been a special edition a few years back
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 13:32
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If you like them, have a look at the new Honda integra guages. They are matt grey with a techno look to them, they are fuckin sweet. Trust me, have a look.
Tim.
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Re: White Gauges
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Thu, 14 November 2002 22:17
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yeah they are nice... but hey i dont have 40 grand to spend on a car plus i want white ones not grey... want to keep some of the heratige...
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Re: White Gauges
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Fri, 15 November 2002 00:00
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whats this... i hear joel saying he is going to start a white gauge factory for celica's???
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Re: White Gauges
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Fri, 15 November 2002 00:29
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Yeah right, I don't even have time to make these for myself at the moment!
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Fri, 15 November 2002 07:50
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i have painted mine white, just pulled the dash out pulled the gauges apart and hit them up with a hit of spraypaint and a brush with some red and black.
email me for pics.
juzzo84@hotmail.com
JUZZO
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Re: White Gauges
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Fri, 15 November 2002 09:56
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juzzo... you got some mail... ok so the impression i am getting is there is no gauge faces that can be purchased... all home made/painted....
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Re: White Gauges
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Fri, 15 November 2002 11:46
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joel could ya forward them to me if possible
thanks
send me the pics ill host them for ya
Oz_Craig@bigpond.com
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Fri, 15 November 2002 13:21
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thats about the long and the short of it, i have not yet seen any form of inserts avalible, but a home is not only cheaper but can also look dam nice, im extremly happy with mine and hope that veryone else that takes the same approach receives the same results.
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU ALL
JUZZO
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Re: White Gauges
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Fri, 15 November 2002 13:49
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when ya painted them white, how did ya do the letters?
i think i am missing something 
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Fri, 15 November 2002 21:51
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i remove the faces out of the gauges and just sprayed the whole thing white, and then with a fine brush and some red and black paint, i painted all the numbers by hand, its not hard on the ta22 because the numbers protrude the dial face, but with the ra2X the gauges are completly flat and the numbers are flat on the face, so maybe in this case, JOEL (CLKWRK) might be the best person to talk to, as i was talking to him the other day and he had made a complete stencil kit.
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Re: White Gauges
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Sat, 16 November 2002 00:50
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Ok, I've mailed some pics to craig, hopefully he'll have them up soon.
The easiest way to make new gauges is to just print them up on the computer, aslong as you know someone with the program & skills.
I'm happy to help out anyone, but it is pretty simple if you know what you're doing.
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Re: White Gauges
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Sat, 16 November 2002 06:45
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Thanks for that mate. What's with the 3rd pic though?
People may notice the toothpick for a needle on the gauges in the 2nd pic, the speedo needle in my car now is the same (should be the 3rd pic), just painted red. I will prolly replace both needles with these.
These uninstalled gauges (2nd pic) are just rough test printouts, I'll be doing final copies with a few changes (prolly change the font, & make the outline circle bigger) and printing it on a couple different types of paper to test it out.
You can see the speedo is already damaged by water on the bottom left of it, I have that tyvek stuff I've already mentioned which is waterproof but I don't know how well it will print on, or high quality photographic printer paper which I don't know how well it will stand up to moisture etc.
The good thing about doing it on computer is once you have it all set out properly, you can change & add things as much as you like.
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Re: White Gauges
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Sat, 16 November 2002 09:40
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should be working fine now.. yeah i had a play around with the guages today broke one of the needles, so looks like im using a tooth pick aswell
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Re: White Gauges
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Sun, 17 November 2002 07:46
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well thanks guys for the info... looks like i am going to have to bust out the creativity.. which cant be good 
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Sun, 17 November 2002 11:53
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dont worry about it, its not a hard job, and when you step back and look at what you have created, you will be very impressed.
GOOD LUCK ALL
JUZZO
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Re: White Gauges
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Sun, 17 November 2002 14:44
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Just interested to see if anyone has altered their original guages to show a different range of speeds/revs before? so 0-300 instead of 0-220, or 0rpm-12krpm instead of 0-8krpm?
Not that my cressida is safe at 220kph let alone 300...
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Re: White Gauges
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Sun, 17 November 2002 23:06
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you have to change the mechanical parts of the gauges to make them read different.
JUZZO
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Re: White Gauges
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Mon, 18 November 2002 04:09
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here is a piccy of my home job white gauges, sorry about the pic quality, crappy digi cam and dirty covers on the gauges dont mix well to produce good quality pics, but here it is anyway.
http://www.geocities.com/juzzo84/Dcp_1636.jpg
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Re: White Gauges
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Mon, 18 November 2002 04:23
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doesnt load up juzzo
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Re: White Gauges
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Mon, 18 November 2002 04:27
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nice juz.. you guys have got me insired to do something about them dodgy guages I cant read the things at night.. I'm going to try running some blue led's 4 it aswell as going white.
also good to change the redline etc for the new engine
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Re: White Gauges
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Mon, 18 November 2002 04:34
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Is that pic too big to put in here??? if so, i'll either delete it when juzzo's page is back working (was for me b4) or change it back to URL.
btw, what program on ya computers do you use to make those guages?
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Re: White Gauges
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Mon, 18 November 2002 04:34
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must be my connection but if i click the link it just comes up with yahoo not found page...
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Re: White Gauges
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Mon, 18 November 2002 04:36
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yeah the linnk will fail cause it is a geocities.. they dont like outside linking.. but if you were to delete the file name from the address and go to main site.. which is blank anyway.. then type in the file name at the end of the address it will work.
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Re: White Gauges
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Mon, 18 November 2002 04:46
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oh i c, man, how do they know its linked?
spretty cool
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Re: White Gauges
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Tue, 19 November 2002 00:28
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yeah.. i would also like to knwo about the program for the guages..
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Re: White Gauges
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Tue, 19 November 2002 03:46
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i dont know what program the other guys used but iam going to use autocad will be a piece of cake!!
ill send the drawing off to whoever wants then when i have down them if ya want
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Re: White Gauges
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Tue, 19 November 2002 07:48
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A mate of mine did mine with Adobe Illustrator. I used a protractor to work out the angles of the increments,
then illustrator has an angle tool which allows you to make a perfect reproduction of the original gauges,
in whatever colour you want.
The other thing you can do, which is what I have done, is rotate the increments so that the needles point
straight down, for the motorbike tacho look.
If the angles between the increments are the same as the original, there's no reason your gauge won't be as
accurate as before. You just need to rotate the needle around uuntill it lines up with the 0 (duh!  ),
like this....
(BTW, these are only a rough copy, I do intent to make a few changes to the finals. If anyone wants a copy of these
gauges let me know, you'd have all the angled increments set out then you could simply change fonts & change the little
increment marks to fully customise your gauges. Celica badges on the gauge, a pic of your car, a neked chick  ,
whatever took your fancy.)
As some of you may notice, the speedo now goes up to 220, and the tacho goes up to 9 grand........
As far as tachos go, no one makes a 4" white fauce tacho with the needle starting from straight down
that didn't cost a shitload that could be used to replace the standard one, EXCEPT, specos new range of
tachos, but alas, these only rev to 8 grand, which my stock one does anyway. Since my motors standard redline
is around the 7 1/2 grand, I decided it wouldn't do. Instead, I modify my own one for nothing & have the same thing.
Then the redline looked wierd being only for 500 revs, and the scale didn't take up much of the face with
it's new increment positions, so I I added the extra 1000 revs. THE TACHO IS INCAPABLE OF REVVING PAST 8 GRAND,
but I don't plan on revving it past that anyway.
The speedo I just figured it'd be good to add in a few more increments, and it can go well past the original top speed.
[Updated on: Tue, 19 November 2002 07:57]
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Re: White Gauges
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Tue, 19 November 2002 09:59
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ATTN: STEVE, thanks for fixing that prob with my link and placing the photo here.
JUZZO
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Tue, 19 November 2002 10:03
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i should take a photo of them, when they are lit up, i used NARVA globes in the dash, as they provide a real nice coloured white light and really compliments the new white dials, also a good thing to do when you have the dash out is to get some emery or sand paper and clean all the light globe contacts in the back of the dash circut board, this will help increase power continuity and also insure bright good quality lighting.
CHEERS
JUZZO
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Re: White Gauges
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Tue, 19 November 2002 10:08
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i dont know if its just a ta23 problem but do you guys have problem with seeing the dials at night??
i can hardly see my tacho and speedo at night?
anyone else have this problem?
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Tue, 19 November 2002 10:17
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YES, i think most people will say the same, but the contacts get dirty on the dash circut and the dimmers start to shit themselfs and everything gets dull, the best thing to try is what i stated in the previous post, clean them up, replace the globes and see how you go, i will organise a night time photo for all to see, the difference is incredable.
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Wed, 20 November 2002 00:34
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yes juzzo is right here, these circuits get very dirty very easily, and are harshly effected by the dirty contacts on the globes and the glugs behind the instument cluster. On my blue RA28 i got the shits with it becuase despite cleaning the contacts the light was as useless as ever... so i got my hands on some 3mm High intensity LED's from the almighty Jaycar and glued them into place.
Exactly what Luke (bugman) is going to do, except i used Red because blue is fvcking expensive.. even at staff prices. And i liked red more!
Ill go home now and get some pics for you guys, its a piece of piss to do if you can solder and wire stuff up. it looks messy behind the dash, but when you have RED DIALS who cares really??
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 20 November 2002 01:00
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CHEERS KARL
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 20 November 2002 01:27
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Hey Witzl, does the dimmer pot still work fine with the leds?
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 20 November 2002 02:24
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You will need to regulate the voltage to dim LED's. If you just run them through a pot, it will work like a switch, on or off.
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 20 November 2002 02:41
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Witzl were did ya mount them in the standard bulb holes?
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Re: White Gauges
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Wed, 20 November 2002 09:25
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to answer all these questions....
Dimmer working - Anthony had the answer... you need to use a voltage reg to maintain the voltage at accetable level... else the LED's just turn off. They are more sensitive to current that voltage with respect to light output.
Mounting: hot glue'd into position. Make sure you use dropping reisitors, around about 500-550 ohms is sufficient, soldered onto the cathode (positive, or longer leg) of the LED. i did as such....
here's an IDEA of what they look like.... digital cameras dont like working without a flash!!
NB: i only used a couple of Leds, cos i didn't know how well they'd work... and after deciding it wasn't enough... i was too lazy to put in more. Also its a good idea to "rough-up" or even flatten off the dome of the LED since they are a focused beam, and flattening them diffuses the light more.
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