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I Supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: December 2002
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Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Sat, 09 April 2005 11:12
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I just read this brief that seems to say that Toyota are planning on building direct injection petrol engines sometime in the not too distant future.
Toyota's labs have designed an engine modelling tool which will allow them to accurately predict and measure optimum combustion chamber designs for the direct injection petrol engine... we could be seeing some much more powerful and fuel efficient cars from Toyota!
Direct injection petrol engines produce around 10% more power and use up to 20% less fuel than comparable conventional injection engines!
They can run up to 20:1 AFR's!!!
Read the article here:
http://www.tytlabs.co.jp/english/tech/e_ena_d4engi ne.pdf
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Sat, 09 April 2005 11:23
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Dude, Toyota have had direct injection for ages. 2JZ-FSE for example.
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I Supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Sat, 09 April 2005 11:23
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Actually apparently Toyota already have made some direct injection petrol engines.
1JZ-FSE
2JZ-FSE
3S-FSE
They must be kept mainly in Euro Markets and the JDM... why aren't these engines ever spoken of? too hard to correctly tune / modify?
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Sat, 09 April 2005 12:06
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Never released out of Japan is the most likely reason. And they may not meet the SEVS power/weight requirements.
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Location: Wollongong
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Sun, 10 April 2005 06:47
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Cough, the new GS300 which is available in Australia has an FSE engine. Definitely available outside of Japan, and must comply with our emissions standards.
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Location: sydney,nsw.oz.
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Sun, 10 April 2005 08:56
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Soarer wrote on Sun, 10 April 2005 16:47 | Cough, the new GS300 which is available in Australia has an FSE engine. Definitely available outside of Japan, and must comply with our emissions standards.
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That's right !
The new Lexus GS300 was released in OZ about 4 weeks ago with a new V6 3 litre motor.
See here : "http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id= 9331&vf=1"
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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2003
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Sun, 10 April 2005 11:50
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Engine Type Valv/Cyl Year Disp. BHP Torque Stroke CR
2JZ-FSE DOHC 4 99- 2997 220@5600 217@3600 VVT-i
Looks pretty good, similar in specs to the 2JZ-GE
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Mon, 11 April 2005 03:43
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Like Mitsubishi's GDI, fuel quality has been a problem for it to be brought into Australia for a while.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Mon, 11 April 2005 05:14
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Soarer wrote on Sun, 10 April 2005 14:47 | Cough, the new GS300 which is available in Australia has an FSE engine. Definitely available outside of Japan, and must comply with our emissions standards.
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Gimme a break, it's been four weeks
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Location: New Zealand
Registered: May 2004
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Mon, 11 April 2005 06:46
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Alchemist wrote on Sun, 10 April 2005 21:50 |
Engine Type Valv/Cyl Year Disp. BHP Torque Stroke CR
2JZ-FSE DOHC 4 99- 2997 220@5600 217@3600 VVT-i
Looks pretty good, similar in specs to the 2JZ-GE
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Yeah but im sure the fuel economy has improved
Edit. Remembered reading this a few weeks ago
Taken from www.autopoint.co.nz
Audi's new RS4 quattro four-door sedan steps boldly into supercar territory with 0-100km/h acceleration of under five seconds and the potential to hit 290km/h flat-out.
It's being seen as the most dramatic Audi since the original quattro coupe of 1980. That car sprinted to 100km/h in a shade under seven seconds, and started the revolution that has seen four-wheel drive turbocars dominate the World Rally Championship.
The 2005 RS4, which debuted at this month's Geneva motor show in Switzerland, differs from the original quattro and subsequent Audi performance cars in one major respect.
In place of a turbocharged motor, it runs an all-new 4.2-litre FSI direct petrol injection V8, derived from the 90-degree unit used in the Audi S4.
The V8 delivers 420bhp and peak torque of 430Nm.
Though the peak occurs at 5500rpm, 90 percent of the torque is available between 2250rpm and 7600rpm.
Audi quotes a 0-100km/h time of 4.8 seconds, and says the RS4 will reach 200km/h in around 16.6 seconds.
It has an electronically limited top speed of 250m/h but if it allowed to run unrestricted to the 8250rpm redline the RS4 would hit 290km/h-plus.
Audi developed FSI direct petrol injection in the Audi R8 Le Mans V8 sports racing cars before using it in four and six-cylinder road cars.
This is its first application in a road-going Audi V8.
Audi says the system helps maximise both performance and efficiency through more effective and accurate fuel combustion.
A steering wheel-mounted Sports button enables the driver to adjust the throttle control mapping to give even sharper response.
The RS4's Electronic Stability Programme (ESP) has been programmed to intervene later and for a shorter period than in a standard A4, improving driving satisfaction while retaining traction.
Careful design to keep weight to the minimum has given the new RS4 an impressive power-to-weight ratio of 254bhp per tonne (that compares with the BMW M3's 215bhp/tonne).
The RS4 uses aluminium for normally heavy items like the suspension, bonnet and front fenders.
The car is 30mm lower than a standard A4, and has wider front and rear track.
To give it more of a driver's car feel, a new evolution of the quattro four-wheel drive system does away with the traditional 50/50, front/rear, torque split. In the new RS4 it delivers 60 percent of torque to the rear wheels, making the car more agile - at the expense of some traction - and making its cornering behaviour more adjustable.
The system works in conjunction with Dynamic Ride Control, an electronically governed, mechanical damping system. DRC connects the car's shock absorbers diagonally, using a central valve which directs a flow of oil to provide additional damping force whenever a shock absorber is compressed. That improves handling precision and the car's stability.
The RS4's 19-inch alloy wheels surround 18-inch disc brakes.
Details like a tapered sports-style steering wheel, RS bucket seats, engine starter button and extensive carbon fibre trim give the RS4 a race car feel.
Audi will sell saloon and Avant station wagon versions of the RS4, the Avant from 2006.
British magazine Autocar says the RS4 is the first of several naturally-aspirated Audi performance cars, including an RS6 and an RS8.
[Updated on: Mon, 11 April 2005 06:50]
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Location: Campbelltown
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Mon, 11 April 2005 07:19
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yeah but the old 2.7 twin turbo V6 is much better to mod. Stock 280kw, my uncle has around 350kw in his, and there is plenty of potential for more its just a matter of how much you wanna spend. But the NA v8 is great and i wouldn't mind one but for ppl that wanna mod them it ain't as good.
Can't wait for the rs3 twin turbo 3.2v6 in a hatch weighing probably 1500-1600kg by then heavy bastard but will be quick.
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Toymods Club Treasurer
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Tue, 12 April 2005 07:54
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Yeah, Toyota have had direct injection for a while.
Toyota Japan dropped the turbo diesel engines from the current Caldina & Corona because they could get the same fuel economy with twice the power out of the 1.8 FSE in them (I can't remember the engine code, think it was 1AZ-FSE)
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Re: Toyota developing direct injection petrol engine
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Tue, 12 April 2005 11:09
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Corona RT142 wrote on Mon, 11 April 2005 17:19 | yeah but the old 2.7 twin turbo V6 is much better to mod. Stock 280kw, my uncle has around 350kw in his, and there is plenty of potential for more its just a matter of how much you wanna spend. But the NA v8 is great and i wouldn't mind one but for ppl that wanna mod them it ain't as good.
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Quote: | The V8 delivers 420bhp and peak torque of 430Nm.
Though the peak occurs at 5500rpm, 90 percent of the torque is available between 2250rpm and 7600rpm.
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back in the old days 'modding a motor' meant more performance.. it is arguable that with this level of factory development, there is little to be gained by modding them...
430Nm from 4.2L is more than most modded motors get (NA ) and to have 90% of torque over a 5350rpm range is pretty bloody good!! what more could you want from NA (apart from turbo )
Cya, Stewart
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