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RA28midge
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18RG Conversion Thu, 14 November 2002 04:00 Go to next message
I have to organise and get an 18RG into my RA28 in the next 2 weeks before I go to the Pilbara for the next 3 months.
Can someone please tell me Exactly what I need to do to the accelerator cables to the carbies for the install?
Everything else ie mounts, starter motor, coils, exhaust... is exactly the same right????
All wiring the same?
Can someone please email me some pics of their 18RGs in their RA23/8 engine bay so I can compare to what it should look like.
Please I need as much info as possible ASAP.
Should I replace clutch and pressure plate at the same time? how much would they cost to buy and is it worth it???
Thanks guys.
midge@engineer.com
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RA23_Sean
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Re: 18RG Conversion Thu, 14 November 2002 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The 18R-G bolts in no worries. I can't help with the accelerator because I put an injected RG in my RA23. The only things you may have to worry about are heater/radiator hoses, but they're easily sorted if you're close to a radiator shop. I think I used a commodore V6 heater hose to connect the heater tap to the back of the motor. It's got a tight s bend in it. There's no difference in wiring if you're putting the carb RG in. Just put it in and ask specifics if you come across any problems. As for the clutch, if you've got the cash, get a new one. Otherwise I wouldn't worry too much unless you're going to treat it harshly.
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Re: 18RG Conversion Fri, 15 November 2002 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well i would help but i have twin 45mm webers on my 18RGU, so i dont know how the accel cable would be on yours....

but if u want a pic nonetheless... let me know ok
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Re: 18RG Conversion Fri, 15 November 2002 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry.. how do u mean it doesnt matter because u put an injected RG in yours? all RGs have a different throttle position than stock 18R-c, because the inlet is on the drivers side for the DOHC. Injected RGs have the throttle switch on the outside of the end of the big plenum thing with "EFI" badged across the top. How did you sort out this problem with Your accelerator cable? got pics?because im sure it may be a valuable bit of info for carbie swaps or EFI. a few people have told me u can use later corona or similar accel. setups, but im not exact sure if theres any difficulty in ripping the lever-stick thing off the stock engine bay and putting in a cable? The same with twin 45s, dont these still need a different accelerator/throttle cable than original? even if it may be differently positioned or actuated on the webbers i dont know.

Do u need a different coil with the twin-solex 18RGs? they have different dizzys im sure so it may need something otehr than 18rc variant.

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Re: 18RG Conversion Fri, 15 November 2002 03:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
umm i didnt do the conversion myself, but the gut i bought my celica from just cut the lever in half, screwed the bit that goes to the carbies way further left, and clamped the two bits together.. dodgy i know, but it works Evil or Very Mad

yeh hope you get the picture of what im talking about Smile
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Re: 18RG Conversion Fri, 15 November 2002 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think he meant he put an EFI 18r-g in and used a cable instead of a linkage which some people choose to do with the stock solexes. I can take a photo of my linkage setup this arvo, it was just a quick job but it's been on there for about 2 years now and still going strong. Just get a bosch gt40r coil, stocker 18r-c one would most likely do the job. I used a stock 18r-c distributor in mine for quite some time and it works fine. Everything below the head should be re-usable, don't forget you need to get a different set of extractors and also I think I had to get different radiator hoses, maybe I just swapped them over Smile. Thermostat housing is different but thermostat itself is the same. Good luck with the conversion.

[Updated on: Fri, 15 November 2002 03:35]

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Re: 18RG Conversion Fri, 15 November 2002 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im interested in this conversion also..

So it bolts straight in,

the things im worries about are accelerator linkages (explained)
the exhust manifold (need a new one?)
this engine has electronic ignition correct? any problems with this?
the radiator hose (explained).

apart from this any other problems?


Edit: people say the solex carbies are throw aways??? are there no carby kits for these??? or where they made to be thrown out Shocked ???!!! i am able to rebuild carbys so any problems with this?

[Updated on: Fri, 15 November 2002 07:43]

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THE WITZL
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Re: 18RG Conversion Fri, 15 November 2002 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
only the 18R-GU had the throw-away solex's i belive. complete shit carbies.

exhaust manifold is different. i have a spare set of 18RG extractors sitting around here at home.
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RA23_Sean
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Re: 18RG Conversion Fri, 15 November 2002 23:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This won't help Andrew, but I used an RA65 pedal and accelerator cable for me 18R-GEU. The pedal needs some modifications for it to work, but they are limited to drilling one hole in the plastic RA65 pedal mount and bending the pedal up so you get enough travel. The cable bolts on the the EFI manifold without any hassles at all.

As for the carby set-up, I looked at doing this when I first got my R-G. Thankfully the EFI bits came up cheap and I didn't have to worry about it.

EDIT: With the exhaust manifold, your motor should come with one. If it doesn't, get a set of extractors from Liverpool Exhaust if you cant find any second hand.

[Updated on: Fri, 15 November 2002 23:59]

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willwal98
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Re: 18RG Conversion Sat, 16 November 2002 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my most humble apposlagies, i forgot all about this wqhen I got home. Here are two pics showing the mods you need to do for a linkage setup. The leg that travels down to the carbies I could not get a proper shot of where it links to the carbs but I put a drawing in to show that bit. And I have put adjustment holes towards the top of this bit too. Hope this helps you. BTW where the pivot it towards the middle there are bolt holes already there so no drilling reguired.

http://www.orford.com.au/temp/e1.jpg
http://www.orford.com.au/temp/e2.jpg
http://www.orford.com.au/temp/e3.jpg

Please ignore all the dodgy bits (like the blue AND yellow paint) most of these I plan to fix over the next few months.
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RA28midge
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Re: 18RG Conversion Sun, 17 November 2002 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ha, My RA28 is looking the same right now, blue body with yellow engine bay, it freaks me out every time I look under the hood, but not for long.
Thanks guys.
Just checking, does the 18RG still use the same exhaust set up past the extractors?
Witzl, can you email me a pic of the cable set up you have for the carbies, I might try the RA65 cable for the carbies.
I now just have to try to put it in I guess.
So much to do, so little time.
Feel free to impart any other pearls of wisdom,
Thanks
Andrew
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Steve M
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Re: 18RG Conversion Mon, 23 June 2003 02:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Depending on what model 18rg you have and what carbies are on it you might have to do a little rewiring.

With our 18rgu conversion we had to rewire the choke heaters (late model carbies) and figure out a way to get the mixture control valve (I think that's what it is, the big ugly emission valve on the top of the cam cover) to work.
The choke heaters were easy, just extend the original wiring.
The emission vlave was a bit more difficult. It required some rerouting of the wires for the valve. The earth wire was extended and run onto a 3Y model Hiace vacuum switch. The positive wire was rewired to run from the choke heater cable.

If you have an early model engine with the early carbies you might not had to worry about this stuff but if not then it might help you get it passed inspection.

I still don't know whether our conversion will pass, we should get it checked in the next two weeks.
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Steve M
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Re: 18RG Conversion Mon, 23 June 2003 02:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oops, forgot to add about the throttle connections.

We basically made it from scratch out of 10mm steel rod, steel flat bar, a few nutsand bolts and a shitload of welding.
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Re: 18RG Conversion Fri, 01 August 2003 05:24 Go to previous message
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