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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 04:22
 
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it wouldbe a waste of time/money etc
those supra's are made light weight
3s's have dick all torque in comparison to 1j's
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 04:22
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they have 324nm of torque from the caldina out of the box and that is slightly less than the GT4 i think cos it has like 17kw less JDM spec. 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 04:27
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| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 27 July 2005 14:22 |
it wouldbe a waste of time/money etc
those supra's are made light weight
3s's have dick all torque in comparison to 1j's
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Yeah but it would be
-more fuel efficient than a 1J
-still have plenty of potential for power
-lightweight
-better weight distribution
im just tossing up ideas for the future, doesnt mean ill actually do it
hell i might put a 4G63 in there
(ok, im kidding there  )
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 04:57
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| Merudo wrote on Wed, 27 July 2005 14:27 |
| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 27 July 2005 14:22 |
it wouldbe a waste of time/money etc
those supra's are made light weight
3s's have dick all torque in comparison to 1j's
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Yeah but it would be
-more fuel efficient than a 1J
-still have plenty of potential for power
-lightweight
-better weight distribution
im just tossing up ideas for the future, doesnt mean ill actually do it
hell i might put a 4G63 in there
(ok, im kidding there )
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Id actually put money on it being less fuel efficient.. it would have to work a hell of a lot harder than a 1j to get the car moving.. 1j's dont use too much fuel either(unless you up it 100% of the time)
lightweight- well, if you own a z2 soarer, youve already thrown that option out the window.. why try salvage it?
Better weight distibution- probably wouldnt make too much different and the loss in power/torque would see any gain made fade away into the distance
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 06:18
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| indian wrote on Wed, 27 July 2005 12:40 |
guys what u think a t28 turbo will be like on a 1g-gte engine Theres one for sale on the forums and I was thinking of getting it anyone tried this before amd also
Does anyone ere know if the t28 and the t04e turbos have the same flange
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Anyone want to answer my question , lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 06:23
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just go TD07 like emp-2tg
250kw out of an internally stock 1G, untuned?
aww shit yeah.
Although I wonder when it comes on boost... LOL
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 06:55
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Nah im only looking at getting around 150 ish don’t want too much power as it will be misused 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 07:03
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150 should be easy out of an exhausted/boosted/intercoolered(like not stock one) 1g
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 07:11
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hmm ive got the big cooler on , exhaust and boost should be coming soon so if i get the t28 what sorta power u think iil get with zorst and around 1 bar boost i have no idea how big a t28 is in flesh 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 09:51
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the 7m p00 motor will be alright to drive
274rwkw @ 0.8bar
Time to raise the boost.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 27 July 2005 09:59
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anyone able to help me on water temp senders on the old schools. i am having heaps of trouble wiring mine as i can't find which wire it is. do they just change resistance WRT temp? i need to find which pin it is on the z10 dash. or even if someone can tell me where it is sent from on the z10. i have a single wire plug on the drivers side of my bay i am suspecting it may be.
Can anyone help me please!!!!
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 00:15
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wher was that at??
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 01:17
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ahh dam u shoulda told me u were goin i woulda gone
oh well wait 4 another cruise!!
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 02:47
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THIS IS THE THREAD'S "1337" POST
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 04:42
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| Merudo wrote on Thu, 28 July 2005 11:30 |
| TT_50AR wrote on Thu, 28 July 2005 11:17 |
ahh dam u shoulda told me u were goin i woulda gone
oh well wait 4 another cruise!!
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I'll see you this saturday at bowling anyway, you can show me the new boost controller and how well the ol girl responds to a bit more boost up her
You've got the stock IC, dont you?
a bigger better front mount IC to replace the stock front mount IC would definitely help when you're upping the boost 
also can you PM me my VIN number if you've still got it handy, i need it to price up a new dizzy cap and rotor button
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yeh i should hopefully c u sat
and yeh i cant wait 4 a FMIC
and yeh ill send u a pm now
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 06:12
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Would look even better with the side skirts and rear pods i have on it
| Merudo wrote on Thu, 28 July 2005 10:22 |
newcastle, at the newcastle meet that evan organised (its in the cruises and events section, still on the first page but down a bit
edit
Click here for cruise thread
I can't believe how nice my car turned out in those photos...
Ribfeast has some talent with that camera, thats for sure...
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 06:18
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| 1200det wrote on Thu, 28 July 2005 16:12 |
Would look even better with the side skirts and rear pods i have on it
| Merudo wrote on Thu, 28 July 2005 10:22 |
newcastle, at the newcastle meet that evan organised (its in the cruises and events section, still on the first page but down a bit
edit
Click here for cruise thread
I can't believe how nice my car turned out in those photos...
Ribfeast has some talent with that camera, thats for sure...
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You want to make me cry, don't you.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 06:23
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There for sale 
| Merudo wrote on Thu, 28 July 2005 16:18 |
| 1200det wrote on Thu, 28 July 2005 16:12 |
Would look even better with the side skirts and rear pods i have on it
| Merudo wrote on Thu, 28 July 2005 10:22 |
newcastle, at the newcastle meet that evan organised (its in the cruises and events section, still on the first page but down a bit
edit
Click here for cruise thread
I can't believe how nice my car turned out in those photos...
Ribfeast has some talent with that camera, thats for sure...
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You want to make me cry, don't you.
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Perth
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 22:33
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danners whats wrong with it that it used to be faster?
oh yeah james...1JZ 1JZ 1JZ 1JZ 1JZ
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 22:50
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 08:33 |
danners whats wrong with it that it used to be faster?
oh yeah james...1JZ 1JZ 1JZ 1JZ 1JZ
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his safc is not tuned at the moment, and he suspects his bov is leaking (sounds like it too)
i took him for a ride in my car, he was laughing most of the way
Probably because of the racket the 1G-GTE makes, but how it doesnt go anywhere
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 22:52
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zomg, double post...
oh well , might as well make this post useful
to emulate emp-2tg's setup, with his 1G-GTE with TD07 turbo, aftermarket ecu and what looked like a custom-made plenum, custom IC piping, big front mount, converted to coil packs, im assuming bigger injectors too..... would that be feasible, or would a 1JZ still be a better option
'cause he was putting out 250rwkw untuned...
stock internals, and at 26psi i think...
I still think the performance would be blunted by my car though...
in which case the much more torquey 1JZ would probably be the thing to do...
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:01
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Z20 = too heavy for 1GGTE
1JZ always a better option....
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:06
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What’s the 1g going to be like with a t28 single turbo on it will it be ok or s it a waste of time and money theres a guy selling one on the forums and im keen on getting it how big are the t28 turbos , does anyone know compared to the twins I just want some decent power like 150-180 kw will the t28 get me there
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:09
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mmm.... i dont imagine a custom plenum and that TD07 would come cheap either
| indian wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 09:06 |
What’s the 1g going to be like with a t28 single turbo on it will it be ok or s it a waste of time and money theres a guy selling one on the forums and im keen on getting it how big are the t28 turbos , does anyone know compared to the twins I just want some decent power like 150-180 kw will the t28 get me there
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man, if i could squeeze 180rwkw out of my car, that would be plenty.
Although I say that, but I'll probably want more power afterwards
but there's no way in HELL i am going 1JZ and staying auto (EDIT: i guess a decent auto wouldnt be that bad, but I long to own a manual car... especially after this autotragic box)
unless i can only afford the auto 1jz halfcut...
in which case, if i'm that strapped for funds, what the hell am i doing trying to do an engine conversion?
99% of ones i've read about you guys and others doing, random ship crops up that needs to be fixed or changed, and takes your hard earned $$$ away quite easily
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:20
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| Merudo wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 08:52 |
zomg, double post...
oh well , might as well make this post useful
to emulate emp-2tg's setup, with his 1G-GTE with TD07 turbo, aftermarket ecu and what looked like a custom-made plenum, custom IC piping, big front mount, converted to coil packs, im assuming bigger injectors too..... would that be feasible, or would a 1JZ still be a better option
'cause he was putting out 250rwkw untuned...
stock internals, and at 26psi i think...
I still think the performance would be blunted by my car though...
in which case the much more torquey 1JZ would probably be the thing to do...
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the 250rwkw run was done at 23psi and afr were in the 9:1 range.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:27
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indian I wouldnt bother...
go for something like a VG30 roller, those turbos are good on S13's and it would be fine on a 1G for something around 180rwkw pulling hard to the redline
either that or go for something like a T3 off an Rb25
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:40
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 09:27 |
indian I wouldnt bother...
go for something like a VG30 roller, those turbos are good on S13's and it would be fine on a 1G for something around 180rwkw pulling hard to the redline
either that or go for something like a T3 off an Rb25
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earthweb's TO4 setup would be good though...
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:50
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can someone please explain what it is like boosting there 1G. Fair enough i haven't gone for a "real" strap in it but do they usually make lots of noise and then start to feel boost. Or have i got something leaking?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:57
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| ndgcpr wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 09:50 |
can someone please explain what it is like boosting there 1G. Fair enough i haven't gone for a "real" strap in it but do they usually make lots of noise and then start to feel boost. Or have i got something leaking?
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don't look at me, my car's running like shit at the moment.
It's seriously like a different car when its warmed up... the car feels substantially (like, at least 33% faster) when cold.
And I have NFI why.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 00:14
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 09:27 |
indian I wouldnt bother...
go for something like a VG30 roller, those turbos are good on S13's and it would be fine on a 1G for something around 180rwkw pulling hard to the redline
either that or go for something like a T3 off an Rb25
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cool but im after something that comes on boost Soon like the twins , not have to wait for 3000 rpm to start boosting , , what flanges have the vg30 turbo got is it the same as the t28 if so then I can still get them as they guy wont separate the lot , so if I just got the manifold I can use another turbo , what other turbos will fit on the same flange as the t28 , something that I can easily source too
Im only getting it cause its cheap , earthwebs setup is good as well but I think its sold and is out of my price range too but I dunno what the spooling time on that is , I want boost asap yeahhhhhhhhhh
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 00:16
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with a 1g, just because you whack on a big turbo on your car wont make it any more fun/driveable
it will probably make it worse.. remember these nice little words, "power band". Slapping a big turbo on a 1g in a heavy car will only make it take longer to do anything with a big top end rush
what you want is low end torque, hence why 1jz is the go
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 00:18
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| Jag7799 wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 09:46 |
with a 1g, just because you whack on a big turbo on your car wont make it any more fun/driveable
it will probably make it worse.. remember these nice little words, "power band". Slapping a big turbo on a 1g in a heavy car will only make it take longer to do anything with a big top end rush
what you want is low end torque, hence why 1jz is the go
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couldnt have said it better myself
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 00:51
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Ok guys , but help me out here , im in different minds about what to do lollllll
Car will be manual , will have 3 inch zorst and an safc to boot
Now whati need to know is will the t28 do me well in the above setup or should I go something else , only looking for around 180ish or less power remember the car only put out 92 stock so even a 150 will be more than enuf
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 01:26
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| Merudo wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 10:56 |
your car might have only put out 92rwkw, but arent the 1G soarers supposed to be pushing about 110rwkw in stock auto?
cause if my car's running around as good as yours indian (which sounds about right from what you've desribed it...)
then my mate's N14 pulsar plus with an SR20DE that puts out 95rwkw is faster...
OHHH GOOD-O 
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u mean 95 fwkw
but yeah the soarer puts out that power in the 80km/hr zone hehehehe so the pulsar will be behind as it prob has to redline for that power
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Fri, 29 July 2005 01:35
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so your 1g produces peak power and then plateaus out fairly early does it?
interesting...
also, yeah sory i meant front wheel kilowatts...
but still, the weight difference, his pulsar would trounce yours (and my) soarer 
That's just not right...
It's not right at all.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 01:40
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| Merudo wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 11:05 |
so your 1g produces peak power and then plateaus out fairly early does it?
interesting...
also, yeah sory i meant front wheel kilowatts...
but still, the weight difference, his pulsar would trounce yours (and my) soarer
That's just not right...
It's not right at all.
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and its true, i lost in a traffic light grandprix to an N14SSS about two days after i got my soarer...I was sunk in shame
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 01:50
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oh well, we've got something the SSS doesn't have
-style
-prowess
-prescence
-luxury
-two extra cylinders
I honestly dont really give a damn about other cars that much, because there will always be someone faster, lighter, heavier, slower, better handling, worse handling, nicer paint, etc etc etc
but I want to be able to at least hold my own speed wise...
i mean do you know how hard it was for me to keep up with a JZA80 supra, an R32 GT-R and a 300kw MR2 turbo?!
IT WAS HARD!
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 03:49
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| indian wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 10:51 |
Ok guys , but help me out here , im in different minds about what to do lollllll
Car will be manual , will have 3 inch zorst and an safc to boot
Now whati need to know is will the t28 do me well in the above setup or should I go something else , only looking for around 180ish or less power remember the car only put out 92 stock so even a 150 will be more than enuf
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did you even read what i said?
peak power means dick all... okay, it means a decent bit.. BUT what your really need to be concerned with is your torque/power band
your bigger turbo will make lots of torque.. BUT u wont get dick all until like over 4k rpm. which will make your car an absolute pig. this is what makes a 1jz the absolute best suggestion and worth the money.
with simple mods your can probably make more than your 1g with big turbo(just IC, exhaust and boost). You will have a driveable car, i.e it will move off the line. it has mother loads of torque so you can do all your wheel spinning/whatever else you plan on doing needs.. you will still be able to smoke people off the line in a drag race without revving up(instead of having to launch at say 5k rpm with the big turbo)
.. need i say more.. just ask mr 1jz, he went from exactly what you have to the 1j
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Fri, 29 July 2005 03:55
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plus, the 1JZ won't be nearly as highly strung as the 1GGTE with a huge fuckoff size turbo strapped to it would be, would it?
ie, you're more likely to run into some sort of troubles with that sort of 1GGTE setup, rather than a stock 1JZ with some custom dump pipes, zorst, intake and a boost controller
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Fri, 29 July 2005 03:58
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What u have said is true , but I don’t want to do an engine conversion, otherwise I would do exactly what u have said , just want a bit more from the 1g so the go with the single turbo
The conversion will cost me an arm and a leg not to mention the manual transmission swap as well
Not too keen on spending too much money that’s why the single turbo approach
so yeah what i want to know is if the t28 will spool up like the twins or take its time to come on boost im looking at getting around 2500 rpm to start spooling at least
So now can someone help me decide lollllll
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 04:00
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the twins take fucking forever on mine anyway.
when i test fitted my boost controller i wasnt hitting 0.62 bar (9psi) until around 4,5000rpm.
gay.
and yes cruz, i adjusted my timing.
but there's other issues, like the spark arcing out of BRAND NEW FUCKING LEADS AND I DONT KNOW WHY :x:x:x:x
third leads and its still doing it what the fuck?!
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:08
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i am too thinking about the 1jz conversions. Just dont know if it will be worth(well i know it will be worth it, just depends on how many banks i can rob). And also i really havent found out how difficult it is to do a conversion like this. Especially electronics wise. I guess its just a matter of putting in the new ECU with all the engine sensors ect up, and then manually working out which wires from the dash go where, and hooking uo the new aircon etc. Plus tonnes of other stuf i havent thought about.
Also, whats fuel consumption in a 1jz like anyways. In my 1g, i'm getting like 12km/100km in cityish driving.
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:16
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HOLY SHITE U MUST BE GETTING LIKE CLOSE TO 700 THEN FOR A FULL TANK
MOTHER OF GOD
I ONLY GET 370 FOR A FULL TANK
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:17
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i get about 8l/100km .. but.. my car does weigh 300-400 less
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:18
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| Jag7799 wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 16:17 |
i get about 8l/100km .. but.. my car does weigh 300-400 less
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*throws rocks at jag7799*
actually, i know what to do
*loads some bags of cement into his JZZ10*
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:26
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you probably find that even in a z20 the economy wouldn't be that different maybe even better on the 1jzgte as you wouldn't have to accelerate as much.
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:27
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man 370km. that sucks, what are you like got your foot on the floor 24/7. Its kinda funny that i actually am getting like the toyota predictions for fuel consumption.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:29
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| Big Rob wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 16:27 |
man 370km. that sucks, what are you like got your foot on the floor 24/7. Its kinda funny that i actually am getting like the toyota predictions for fuel consumption.
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i got 280km to half a tank ONCE, but the second half went in like 140km.
:'(
Fuel economy baaaaad!
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March 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:34
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haha, you guys gotta learn how mot to spool sooo much when driving in the city. RESIST THE ERGE lol. 
Yeah, this is why i was wondering about the 1jz. I thought newer engine, maybe more efficent. Plus extra tourqe so wont need to rev it out as much. Then i also thought, hmmmmmmm proberbly gonna end up flooring it hell of alot tooo.
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Location:
Canberra
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:34
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Having 3 X MZ21`s and ranging from stock standard Autos to a Tuned 5 speed from me driving to the g/f driving we are lucky to get 400kms out of tank of fuel.
They suck on fuel lol
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March 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 29 July 2005 06:36
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see i always thougt 2l, couldnt be too bad, and with the turbo would be more like just over a 3lt so, not tooo bad.
I guess i was wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
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