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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 04:03
 
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Ah k
Wasn't sure.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 04:19
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| CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 14:03 |
Ah k
Wasn't sure.
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its cool
I woulde thought they would have called 1JZ turbos something other than CT12a considering the 1G ones are called CT12
*scratches head*
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 04:22
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| CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 12:55 |
Are you buying just a motor?
or a front cut?
An MA70 front cut will bolt in
If you buy just the engine, then you'll need to get the mount with it.
I believe the later MA70's share the JZA70 crossmember, so if you get one of them you'll have to source early 7M mounts, not that that will be much of a struggle.
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its a 7m out of a soarer.. so mz20 and yeh its just the egnine im gettin.... so i gotta get the mounts with it.
so basically swappin same saorer 2 same saorer but just changin engine...
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 06:17
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Holy shit batman calm down 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 06:23
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no shit
soarer owners only spread love...
make love not war
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 06:24
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Just typing what everyones thinking buddy!  You obviously don't entirely know what your on about, so rather than mashin' away at the keyboard, sit back and think if it is either a:
a) completely rubbish
or
b) worthy
post you are about to embark upon!
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 06:28
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Thanks anyway - Longer term plan is to get 200rwkw - not a huge target, but after living for 2 years with a busted turbo car, I think i deserve just a little bit of power 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 06:34
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 16:23 |
no shit
soarer owners only spread love...
make love not war
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soarer owners ONLY spread love?
but you spread wicked skids as well!
can't we spread love and wicked skids too? 
PLEEAAASE?!
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 08:41
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I concur! More skids - Celsior stylez! 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 09:00
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well I guess the people have spoken
new diff and exhaust go on the soarer some time this week so ill prolly be able to rep something
celsior will be skiddin after compliance
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 11:48
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well we know you will, with that Z20 1JZ monster that has a turbo with an inlet the size of my head on it
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 13:28
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eventually when i get the bloody thing on the road. Hit another snag on the weekend. Got the microtech wired up and got it on the laptop only to come to a halt in proceedings. It's looking although to be confirmed that the cam sensor has gone by the fact that we weren't getting the readings comin back on the laptop. So gotta suss that and get a 1j cam sensor, anyone? and then pick up where we left off. Learing the virtue of patience with these cars, can't wait to get driving it, believe dat
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 13:35
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Microtech needs to see BOTH the 12pulse per rev and 1 pulse per rev before it will start firing injectors.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 13:42
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Hey steve i really like the way your soarer rides...those springs are much better then my current setup...just curious where u got them...i seen the king lows for sale on here but...don't know how they compare to lovells springs...which are stiffer..
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 13:45
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Just curious how many of youz are from melbourne....i wouldn't mind organazing a z soarer cruze one day...it would be a rare sight too see that many z soarers together at once
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 14:10
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I know its probably in this thread somewhere but does anyone have a bendix number for rear brake pads for the GZ20 as I think mine are completely and utterly fucked...
then again setting them on fire...twice...will do that
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 14:23
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| CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 23:35 |
Microtech needs to see BOTH the 12pulse per rev and 1 pulse per rev before it will start firing injectors.
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so from what your saying make sense with what we came up with being the cam sensor being faulty?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 16:12
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Hey yall
still having problems with my soarer turning to shit once it heats up man.
man, these motors are problematic for simple small motors. Speaking of which, plz, plz, somebody tell me how to tell if my turbos are busted (but not blowing smoke), it feels like im way short on power.
BTW, ran the car with no exhaust after the dump for a day, sounds f00kin crazy, u can here the turbos spooling loudly, and then it pops and fires on the way down, l0l
[Updated on: Mon, 15 August 2005 16:19]
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 21:50
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Danners, my car is booked in at the throttle shop on monday to get the steel wheels fitted, talking to nathan there he seems pretty genuine so i'll let you know what there work is like.
you can get ct12a hybrids with steel wheels, i think the wheels are from the starlet ct9's or something. for twins second hand (5000kms) i picked em up for $2500 with twin 3inch dump.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 23:12
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| BLK1GGTE wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 23:42 |
Hey steve i really like the way your soarer rides...those springs are much better then my current setup...just curious where u got them...i seen the king lows for sale on here but...don't know how they compare to lovells springs...which are stiffer..
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yeah man they are pretty comfy compared to yours eh , i reckon its because u compressed the stock ones that they are so stiff but will be the best for handling
i think the kings should do as well as the lovells
And yeah another thing I was thinking about is the lag in ur car , its def the intercooler piping man its too restrictive that’s why I noticed a big difference in mine when I changed it to the 2.5 inch ones I have in it atm so maybe try doing that , and also u car taking ages to warm up maybe check that problem out but yeah the car sound like a tough one with that zorst
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 15 August 2005 23:46
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if the car's taking a lon time to warm up, check the thermostat. its easy as piss to check it and inspect it, but you'll have to take the left side of the metal piping that comes off the turbos and goes over the rocker cover to get at the thermostat...
but its only a few minutes work, and its worth it to inspect
VeeP, mine is the same still!
It appears that mine is an electrical issue when the car warms up, a massive buildup of resistance somewhere.
if you could do me a favour, start your car somewhere where it is pitch black, turn off your lights, pop the bonnet and see if you see your spark plug leads glowing blue anywhere along them.
inspect the ends as well
make sure there is no light.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 00:40
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 00:10 |
I know its probably in this thread somewhere but does anyone have a bendix number for rear brake pads for the GZ20 as I think mine are completely and utterly fucked...
then again setting them on fire...twice...will do that
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DB431AD
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DB413AD (maybe the rears but dont quote me on it)
I not too sure which is the front or rear though, but any automotive place can tell you...
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 00:48
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cheers for that shiznac...
thats for stock GZ20 yeah?
i.e. not the 300mm MA70 front brakes?
I should prolly do the fronts as well soon
and merudo, machining isnt difficult or time consuming, $180 to change your brake pads is rediculous considering the amount of time it takes, especially when you have access to things like a hoise and air tools
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 00:49
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that was inclusive with the cost of pads too
so that was
-pads
-disc machining
-labour
all for 180
either way, i reckon i got gypped
so ill be doing that myself next time anyway
besides, that was when i first got the car. I'm a fair bit more confident with poking around under the engine bay let alone doing brake pads
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 00:52
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JZA70/MZ70/MZ20 and GZ20 are all the same no matter of rotor size...
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 00:53
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| soar_ry 2 beat ya wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 22:23 |
| CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 23:35 |
Microtech needs to see BOTH the 12pulse per rev and 1 pulse per rev before it will start firing injectors.
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so from what your saying make sense with what we came up with being the cam sensor being faulty?
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Yeah.
I was gonna call them Crank and Cam angle sensor, as the 1UZ has one on the crank, and one on the cam, but I think the 1JZ has them both in the old dizzy location.
The Crank sensor will be the 24tooth on, and the Cam sensor will be the 2 tooth one (if its the same as 7mgte, it may only be 1 tooth).
But yeah, the Microtech needs to read these both for 2 complete revolutions before it will fire and injectors/coils.
The laptop display doesn't even read RPM until they are both picked up.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:01
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$700?!
OWNED
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:03
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| indian wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 07:12 |
And yeah another thing I was thinking about is the lag in ur car , its def the intercooler piping man its too restrictive that’s why I noticed a big difference in mine when I changed it to the 2.5 inch ones I have in it atm so maybe try doing that
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BLK1GGTE,
What size intercooler piping do you have? What sort of RPM does it start boosting and when does it make full boost?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:08
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 11:03 |
| indian wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 07:12 |
And yeah another thing I was thinking about is the lag in ur car , its def the intercooler piping man its too restrictive that’s why I noticed a big difference in mine when I changed it to the 2.5 inch ones I have in it atm so maybe try doing that
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BLK1GGTE,
What size intercooler piping do you have? What sort of RPM does it start boosting and when does it make full boost?
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frankie he has the stock cooler piping , he has on of those aftermarket bolt on hks cooler which is bigger than the stocker ones , but still uses the stock cooler piping and mounting points
which is why im suspecting the lag cause the stock piping is shite
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:10
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| Merudo wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 11:01 |
$700?!
OWNED
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thanks merudo i needed that but i had no other choice but to get it done cause i dint want my brakes failing on me
which also made me 700 dollars less to spend on my overseas trip i was going on just after that
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:14
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| indian wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 09:08 |
frankie he has the stock cooler piping , he has on of those aftermarket bolt on hks cooler which is bigger than the stocker ones , but still uses the stock cooler piping and mounting points
which is why im suspecting the lag cause the stock piping is shite
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What is so wrong with the factory piping? It's actually quite direct as far as I can remember. BTW, you don't INCREASE the size of the piping to decrease lag, it'll only make the problem worse.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:14
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no shit!
$700 that sucks the wang!
indian the MA70 calipers have larger pistons I think but the pad is the same size...also having a larger rotor means better heat dispersion which is advantageous when on a track or in the hills
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:20
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I have always used these guys for my brake pads:
http://www.discpads.com/default.asp
Fairly priced even when including freight.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:24
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i changed from my stock cooler piping to 2.5 inch pvc piping loll and noticed a big difference in the responce of the car i have a bigger cooler as well so maybe thats why
but when the stock piping came out i couldnt believe how much it was squashed at some places to clear the fan shroud
i was expecting lag when i changed from the stock cooler and piping to the hybrid cooler and pvc piping but it actually made the response better and turbos are spooling quicker
i have stock zorst though plus pod filter
difference between mine and blk 1g-gte is
me - hybrid cooler and 2.5 inch pvc piping
him - bigger stock replacement hks cooler and stock cooler piping
me- stock exhaust
him - 3 inch turbo back
me - stock ecu
him - blitz ecu (piggy back i think)
me - stock boost
him- 14 psi
both have pod filters
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:29
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 11:14 |
no shit!
$700 that sucks the wang!
indian the MA70 calipers have larger pistons I think but the pad is the same size...also having a larger rotor means better heat dispersion which is advantageous when on a track or in the hills
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yeah the heat dispersion makes sense i knew there would be some reasoning
but yeahmy cars stopping heaps better now after they changed the brake pads and reconditioned the calipers/pistons blah blah
and yeah i didnt suck nothing lollll
but yeah was reading an article on jenna jameson while thety were ripping me off apparently she was raped a few times when she was young
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:31
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Don't forget his high-flowed turbos, that would be the most obvious thing I can think of.
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:36
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yep that another thing to take into account , blitz bag turbos
but yeah once it gets going it flies , we did some rather high speed testing lollll
couldnt flog mine as just before we took it to flog em we noticed a split rubber hose , so boost was leaking so maybe next time 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:56
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yeah merudo, ill check that tonight,
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:57
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Guys have a question for all I know its been discussed before but im still unsure and need help
Im in the line to get a w58 gear box out of a 7mge supra
Will this thing fit into my 1g-gte soarer I know I need a w58 to 1g-gte bell housing , what else will I need to change to make it fit
I alredy have a w58 cross member and brace from a manual 1g-gte
Also Can I use the flywheel of the 7mge motor or do I need a new one
Anything else I need to know please post
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:11
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im assuming
Front Half Manual Tailshaft or Custom 1 Peice
Clutch plate and pressure plate
Clutch pedal
Clutch Master Cylinder
Clutch Slave Cylinder
Shifter
can be had from the supra
and i need the flywheel and a w58-1ggte bell housing
i have nfi about manual conversions sp please dont flame me for posting shit ok 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:15
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yes that list can be had from the supra, for lines id reccomend some braided hose and proper speedflow fittings as you are guaranteed quality and its pretty much a universal fit so no fucking around with pipe benders 
mine cost me about $100
also, buy a new slave cylinder, they are only about $50 and I wouldnt bother fart arseing around with second hand poo
As for the flywheel and bellhousing, well you have to simply look around untill you find something, i remeber seeing a flywheel and bellhousing go for about $150 for the pair on here about 6 months ago, obviously it wont be available now but stuff does pop up
worse comes to worse i think you can use a 3TGTE flywheel
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:19
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WTF
you said not to flame you but man
this has ALL been discussed before
its ALL in this thread
cruzsida even posted average prices for parts
ive got the clutch slave cylinder, bellhousing and manual crossmember indian
and since im going 1JZ rather than W58 manual now, ill be selling thse parts
did you need any of those?
you can buy them off me for the same price i bought them for, they are all still in their postage paks and boxes lol
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:20
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cheers matey so i just gonna go there and pull everything out of the supra
cool
and yeah keep looking for a flywheel and bell housing
so i should be ok to use the front half of the manual 7mge tailshaft and use the rear half of mine and i should be ok
right
hmm might need to pull the centre bearing off that supra too mine fcuked
cheers
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:29
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| indian wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 11:50 |
so i should be ok to use the front half of the manual 7mge tailshaft and use the rear half of mine and i should be ok
right
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I wont back this, becuase didnt work on mine
even if it doesnt its only about $165 for a custom 1 piece
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:34
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ok cool man thanks for the help much appreciated
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:41
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 10:29 |
| indian wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 11:50 |
so i should be ok to use the front half of the manual 7mge tailshaft and use the rear half of mine and i should be ok
right
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I wont back this, becuase didnt work on mine
even if it doesnt its only about $165 for a custom 1 piece
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what he said. custon tailshafts are less expensive than i thought, although mine was $250!
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Tue, 16 August 2005 05:45
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does any1 kno if the 7mgte supra and the 7mgte soarer..with the gearbox's.. are the crossmembers both the same etc?
nathan
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 06:20
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| CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 10:53 |
| soar_ry 2 beat ya wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 22:23 |
| CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 23:35 |
Microtech needs to see BOTH the 12pulse per rev and 1 pulse per rev before it will start firing injectors.
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so from what your saying make sense with what we came up with being the cam sensor being faulty?
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Yeah.
I was gonna call them Crank and Cam angle sensor, as the 1UZ has one on the crank, and one on the cam, but I think the 1JZ has them both in the old dizzy location.
The Crank sensor will be the 24tooth on, and the Cam sensor will be the 2 tooth one (if its the same as 7mgte, it may only be 1 tooth).
But yeah, the Microtech needs to read these both for 2 complete revolutions before it will fire and injectors/coils.
The laptop display doesn't even read RPM until they are both picked up.
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exactly what was happening, we were getting no RPM reading. Wasn't sure how to confirm whihc of the sensor it definately was, suspecting it be the cam but will need confirm first. Gonna try and borrow off my mates soarer who has the 1j and if that works then will look to pick up one and hopefully get her tuned
Also guys, with your talk of brakes, the soarer i'm wrecking has the larger sized brakes on it if anyone was interested and wants to upgrade. Once i've got my new soarer on the road and aren't so occupied i'll get a deatiled list up of what i have available to basically got a soarer with no interior left, has the 7mgte whihc has blown pist6on, number 1. Had head and timing belt done on it and has driven about 10 mins if that since before establing the correct prob. Have the larger brakes as mentioned, adjustable coilovers at the front, and engine bay is complete with everyting you would expect to find. Also have a 3" exhaust from turbo back and muffler on it. Anyone wishing to come and have a look or wants to know anything gimme a shout
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Tue, 16 August 2005 06:22
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Is the 7MGTE that nathan is talking about YOUR 7MGTE?
Is he considering buying that off you?
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Tue, 16 August 2005 06:32
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nup, not mine that nathan is looking at buying
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 10:53
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Thanks indian, for the re-ply... yeah what I noticed with the lag is when I got EPA...  I put just a stock muffler to the 3"inch system.. and surprisingly there was a lot less lag for some unknown reason...change to the riced up cannon and more lag.. With the stocky muffle there is less top end pull but.. I thinks its got to do with the fact that a big exhaust cost bottom end torque but cause of the greater flow u get more top end.... As for the stock piping its fine, except for one piece where its factory squashed to clear the chassis...
As for the springs, stiff may be great for handling but everything rattles in my car cause of it and its shits me day to day driving....
Frank the Blitz turbos don't seem to take longer then the stockies to come on boost, i have full boost by 4000rpm, starts spooling at about 2000rpm but doesn't pull till at least 3 grand..Its an abolute slug untill 3000rpm... Hynda excell is a V8  comparing to mein below this RPM...this is why i want to get a stall converter...
For some reason indians car had no lag...of the line..any ideas anyone else..
PS: Sorry for the long post
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 16 August 2005 14:56
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light little hatchbacks like pulsars and stuff (when manual) own me until i hit second gear.
even then cause my car's running crap its a question of if it will pull or feel like there is no boost whatsoever
oh what a wonderful 1G world I live in
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