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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 00:04
 
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Since i am poor and after my 1/4 run getting a little egar for more power (also mine is starting to smoke bad under heavy accel). I may just go the cheapest and easiest solution. Do the 1G-GEU and 1G-GTE share the same mounts? and are they different then the M-TEU mounts?
My question is that if i take out the 1G-GEU and put in a 1G-GTE it is going to be very easy and i could do it myself? I have done an engine swap before and if it is all the same mounts it wouldn't really be that hard to do i feel. Also does anyone know if the ECU runs the touch panel climate control as well? I thought i followed some wires down there. does this mean i will have to run both ECU's if i want to keep touch panel stuff?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 00:31
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will bolt in, but wiring will be a pain
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 01:54
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isn't wiring easy if you get a half cut? cause you just throw in the new loom. also does it fit my box, or will the new box fit my tail shaft?
Also a problem that has concerned me for a while. where do people jack up there old school cars? are there any mount points?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 02:02
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Same mounts, use the 1GGEU sump, wiring is piss easy.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 02:12
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I ususally jack up my car from either the front X member or the diff...quite simple really
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 08:52
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i have owned a few commodores in my younger days. There diff and rear axle is a large solid bar. the soarer is not, thats why i have been scarer to jack the diff cause it just doesn't look as strong. Is it because the soarer's have IRS or something. i have a hell of a time trying to find places to put my axle stands. also i crushed flat the bar that goes under the front seat, just behind the wheel arch. THAT IS NOT A JACK POINT lol
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 09:08
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jack it up from the centre part of the diff, i.e. where the housing is, it is hardened steel and meant for jacking up the car with a conventional rolling jack, works fine for me, ive never dented or broken anything jacking it up from there, obviously you wouldnt jack it up from the axels
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 11:54
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Yeah but then where the hell can i put my axle stands? i don't think the diff will fit a trolley jack, and 2 axle stands
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 11:57
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Axle stands can go on the rear wishbones/trailing arms if you aren't working on the rear suspension, or on the main chassis rails if you are working on the rear suspension.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 12:00
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PM me your chassis/vin number and ill tell you the month and year.
| CrispyFries wrote on Sat, 21 May 2005 12:21 |
Ooooh, purdy, need to find an aerocabin too 
Yeah, I meant z20s. I have an 86 MZ21, at least that's what the green compiance plate says, can't find a build date (haven't looked too hard)
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 22 May 2005 13:12
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Cool, March 86
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 23 May 2005 12:09
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Hey 1200det! what rims are they in the avatar?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 23 May 2005 23:52
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The rears are 17X9 AVS Model 7 rims and the fronts are 17X8 DUNLOP rims. Dorift spec 
| snail wrote on Mon, 23 May 2005 22:09 |
Hey 1200det! what rims are they in the avatar?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 00:03
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shite what the offset on those rims ,
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 01:50
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I just tried to get my friend to order me some king spings (just asked for the lowers possible they make) for my gz20 soarer, and he just called and said he cant find any for it. So do u order them for an ma70 or something? or is there a part number that he just cant find. Can anyone tell me what i need to know to order new kings for my car?
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Tue, 24 May 2005 01:52
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same as MA70 supra...
they arent very low tho...not low at all
if you want lower call industrial springs down here in SA as they can do them to whatever height and spring rate you want 
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Tue, 24 May 2005 04:04
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thanks guys, hes going to order them now, gone with lovells instead.
Indian: What size rims have u got on ur car?
and has anyone got a set of dishy ones for sale, to suit gz20, notlooking to spend more than about $700.
Also would be willing to sell mine if i got new ones, so possibly someone is willing to swap... mine are below 16x7 if i remember corretly
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Tue, 24 May 2005 04:14
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Mine are 17x7 rims with 45mm offset they do the job well , u could go more wider if u wanted though but im happy with this ones did u see the pic of my car the lovells drop the car really well
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Tue, 24 May 2005 04:23
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Indian: yep saw the pic, thats why im getting them.
Mr 1jz: Have been browsing there, very temped by these:
17" rims
17x8 +14 front 5x114.3
17x9 +17 rear 5x114.3
slight gutter rash, no caps
$550
Ref#- WS172-550
Due- To Be Advised
but now i wonder if they will fit under the guards, anyone care to comment. Also shipping is a cost to consider. + no tyres and 17" while my current rims have new tyres.
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Tue, 24 May 2005 04:28
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they will stick out a lot...
my new ones are +30 and they stick out...
besides dont get them! I want to buy them
would look perfect with the way im going to "modify" my guards
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 04:33
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+14 and +17 are most definately not what you want.
It will put major stress on the bearings and increase track but a large amount over factory.
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Tue, 24 May 2005 04:41
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however they will look farken awesome....
if they dont fit properly, more camber...then lower
ahhh the advantages of a track car
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 04:47
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Hahaha yeah my old rims were 38mm and the back was ok but the front were sticking out , don’t get those rims , U NEED 45mm OR 50mm OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN with a 7inch wide wheel , u might get away with a 8 inch wide wheel in the back but fronts need to be 7 inch wide if ur using 45mm offset ------ u get the drift
NOTHING LOWER THAN 45mm (u can get plenty of 38mm wheels and the later model soarer can run on 38mm wheels as they have wider wheel arches to accommodate them , so when ur mentioning which car tell them it’s the older model soarer, if u can show them the car its better) anything smaller and the wheels will stick out the guards in the front the back will be ok
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 10:06
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saw a 1992 model (allegedly) GZ20 soarer GT, black with silver bottom twotone, PERFECT condition paint, factory manual, 220,000km, interior was PERFECT, boost controller fitted, LSD, this thing looked awesome.
Pulled over to have a look at it (it was in a car yard) and spoke to the guy about it... he proceeded to tell me that it put out 260kw at the rear wheels  on stock boost
AWESOME looking car though.... they wanted $9,900 for it but!!
man, that car looked so hot.
Just spurs me on to doing the mods for my car even more, shame everything else is funnelling away my month but.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 10:37
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ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 13:01
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Tue, 24 May 2005 20:37 |
ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 13:57
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im sorry I was just a little excited... 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 22:40
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'Bout anything in particular?
Did I miss something?
How many people here have done the 1jz conversion?
How many did it themselves?
How many got a prof. to do it?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 24 May 2005 23:36
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I did it myself mostly, but got a professional to do the wiring and another professional to do the cooler piping and exhaust, the rest was done by meeeee 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 25 May 2005 01:14
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Does it sound good?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 25 May 2005 01:33
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it sounds evil...it has half a front pipe on it at the moment...but goddamn...evil
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 25 May 2005 01:35
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Fuck how it sounds, how does it go?
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 25 May 2005 01:39
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havent driven it yet 
thermostat is seized, so i am going to steves tonight to change that then adam from ADCO RACE ENGINEERING is coming to my place with his tig welder to finish my front pipe
but ill be making a short movie tonight with no exhaust on, it is my duty
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 25 May 2005 04:51
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WHATS THE DAMAGE FOR THE WHOLE CONVERSION ????????
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 25 May 2005 05:12
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around 4 grand
but thats doing most of the work myself and getting a sponsored clutch uber cheap and sponsored cooler piping and exhaust
cant complain really, seeing I have heard of people paying nearly $8K for a 1JZ conversion, some paying up to 10 
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 25 May 2005 08:45
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man i don't believe i miss this page for a day and it take me 20 mins to catch up!
Looking (well sounding) good Mr 1Jz. you still have more work to do on your signature though. it still states its a 1g-gte. what did you do with the old engine????
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 25 May 2005 15:05
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yer i got to change that huh!
i sold the old engine...
video of it revving with no exhaust will be up tomorrow, took it for its first drive tonight...omg...the tourque...I snapped third and omg it was soo awwesome
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 25 May 2005 22:19
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| indian wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 18:18 |
GUYS ONE QUESTION FOR ALL
Will the w58 from a 7mgte engine fit the gz20 soarer with the right bell housing, will anything else need to be changed , some one is selling a w58 out of the 7mgte (dunno which car)and I was wondering if it will fit then I can get it has the other stuff as well like the master, slave cylinders , and few other bits too I think
Need urgent help guys
Cheers
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AFAIK, u can make the w58 fit, you will need a bellhousing to suit. The gearbox X memeber supplied will be of no use unless it came out of a soarer, unless what it came from uses the same x member(but i highly doubt that)
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 27 May 2005 03:39
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This post was WAY down the list so i thought i better add something. Finally downloaded the movie man but it was way short and only like 500Kb's the page said it was near 8 meg i thought. or do i not get the whole thing because i didn't want to join up on that site
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 27 May 2005 03:59
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it was meant to be short and sweet dude, what did you think of the sound? I listened to it at home on my PC with 5.1 i loved it, it has a full exhaust now so no more noisy beast
it does spin fourth in the wet tho
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 27 May 2005 16:27
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How's the TO4E perform on the 1G-GTE? when does boost come in? does it provide much more power?
Curious, as I've seen the HKS 1G-GTE TO4E kits for sale on importbitz all the time...
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 28 May 2005 01:08
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Mr 1jz
Yeah i thought it sounded nice, i was just making sure cause i thought there were discrepancies in the size of the file i downloaded and the size it said it was.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 28 May 2005 03:16
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ndgcpr its all good mang
umm well interesting things happened last night 
Took it for its first proper drive....ummm...I think the oil seals in the turbos are cactus...blows a lot of oil smoke and there is oil in the intake, doesnt really feel like its making the power it should be...rather frustratuing actually, still pulls mega hard tho
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 28 May 2005 04:32
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lol. i thinks its funny after naming all the problems you can see that you still happy with the extra power. In my vast lack of knowledge, it that a hard thing to fix?
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Sat, 28 May 2005 04:40
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Okies on another note my car has started to smoke pretty bad (i have posted this in another thread as well). I go through alot of oil and when i punch it it gets real foggy behind me.
I guess this means that i had stuffed O rings or something? (again i am lacking a bit of knowledge. I have been told that to fix it you will need to pull off the heads, rip alot of crap out replace the O rings and put it all back in.
However i have also been told that the 1G-GTE shares the same bottom end as the 1G-GEU and if i need to remove the heads i may as well put on 1G-GTE ones and TT the car right? it would save me doing things twice?
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Sat, 28 May 2005 05:04
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well I might have discovered the problem
one of the cooler pipes has popped off and it might have been sucking in some of the leaking power steering fluid...will fix it now and take it for a drive and find out what the go go is
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 28 May 2005 05:35
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| Merudo wrote on Sat, 28 May 2005 00:27 |
How's the TO4E perform on the 1G-GTE? when does boost come in? does it provide much more power?
Curious, as I've seen the HKS 1G-GTE TO4E kits for sale on importbitz all the time...
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Well, it puts me back into the seat. Boost is around 2000'ish, but I've not really watched when it does come on.
With a S-AFCII and S-ITC it was making 200hp at the wheels (I think stock is 110hp?), but on the dyno it was running out of fuel. I bought 440cc 7M-GTE injectors but I'm not using them now because of the 1JZ swap.
I've also blown the head gasket now, water in the oil and cylinders firing into each other.
I don't know if I'll be selling all the 1G stuff or keeping it and putting it in something like an unlicensed track car or beach buggy.
- Chris.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 28 May 2005 05:47
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1G-GTE in a beach buggy eh? 
and boost comes on at 2000ish... that's 1000rpm earlier than these twins kick in.
INTERESTING!
Cheers for the info.
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 28 May 2005 05:58
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| Merudo wrote on Sat, 28 May 2005 13:47 |
and boost comes on at 2000ish... that's 1000rpm earlier than these twins kick in.
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I've told you before dude, you are supposed to have FULL BOOST by 3000rpm.
CHECK YOUR TIMING
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Sat, 28 May 2005 05:58
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I would check the exact rpm and let you know, but the whole blown head gasket thing makes it impossible now
- Chris.
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Sat, 28 May 2005 07:08
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ok...seems there were some serious problems, i have now hooked up all the cooler piping properly...it now spins every gear up to third and chirps into fourth, i thought it was fast when it was making no boost, now that it makes 1 bar...oh my god...
but the car has a blown headgasket...probably from sitting around for so long
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Sat, 28 May 2005 10:42
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Sat, 28 May 2005 17:08 |
but the car has a blown headgasket...probably from sitting around for so long
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Ouch.
Im going to remember to clean my injectors before i start the beast up, dont want crappy build up to be the downfall of the engine!
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