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Toymods Social Secretary
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 Putting 4age 20V into RA28 celica? questions
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Fri, 15 November 2002 05:24
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ok. like the title says.. im interested to know how difficult the installation of a 4age 20v (silvertop) would be into my RA28. The engine bay is feckin huge so i doubt there would be problems with the physical dimensions of the engine, but i still have a few concerns.
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- distributor is at the back of the engine, will this create a problem?
- gearbox. What do i use? T50? something stronger?
- Intake manifold. I know its quad throttle bodies.. will it be difficult to turn the intake backwards? i know its been done before, but is it really difficult?
- anything else which i havent thought of which could pose a problem?
I havent gone out a bought an engine, but i am considering it! but, if i get enough positive information, i may just buy one!
Help me out here please anyone
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Fri, 15 November 2002 06:38
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you'd end up with a nice front/rear split of the car weights
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Re: Putting 4age 20V into RA28 celica? questions
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Fri, 15 November 2002 07:28
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ok.. problems mentioned so far.....
- dizzy cannot be cut into firewall very easily, heater box behind there!
- water system is all at the rear of the engine... require custom housings and remote stuff...
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Re: Putting 4age 20V into RA28 celica? questions
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Fri, 15 November 2002 08:46
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Can I add that the car will be rather slow. You really need more torque than a 20v is going to give to get a RA28 up and moving at a decent rate.
The 20v would be nice in a car that weights under 700KG wet like a clubman, or if you want to drive the thing on the track all the time and never let the engine drop below 5500rpm or so.
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Re: Putting 4age 20V into RA28 celica? questions
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Sun, 17 November 2002 12:46
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an RA28 laden with an 18r-c motor wieghs 1080kg..... compare that to an AE92 corolla which weighs in with a 4a-fe at 1050kg...
u sure that it wont move it quick enough?
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Re: Putting 4age 20V into RA28 celica? questions
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Sun, 17 November 2002 13:50
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I've seen a few 20v AE86's in action, and to me they're slow. I can't imagine a Celica being any better! If you're going to all the trouble of doing an engine conversion, why not use an engine that will actually make the car decently quick?
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Re: Putting 4age 20V into RA28 celica? questions
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Sun, 17 November 2002 21:48
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Dude I don't want to pour cold water on your ideas but I suggest going for a drive in a 20v car that weighs 1050KG or so before you make a decision, preferably "beside" one with a GZE in it. A MR2 with a 20v is not a really significantly faster car than a stocker. The MR2 is about 1050KG, and far from quick.
I really doubt that the 20v is putting out much more than 150hp when new, which is only about 10 hp more than a fresh 18-RG with a hell of a lot less torque. I know the specs say the 20v is making more than this but I find it hard to believe, when comparing cars running it with cars making the same quoted power. I wouldn't like to have a 20v engine in a celica when it has so much available engine bay to house any of the better Toyota engines.
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Re: Putting 4age 20V into RA28 celica? questions
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Mon, 18 November 2002 02:17
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he is in surrey hills vic
Hey guys,
I've got problems with the 18RG in the TA22...
the fuel pump doesnt seem to pump when its going up hill...
whats the go?
that car has 1/2 tank.
thanks.
CamZHdeer? what deer?  Its all about sticking with the era of the car.
P.S. Burn the front, give me immbedded fog lights (i live in the mountains, so it aint rice!!) and a big ol' hole for the FMIC  [Report message to a moderator]
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Re: Putting 4age 20V into RA28 celica? questions
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Mon, 18 November 2002 02:18
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he is in surrey hills vic
Hey guys,
I've got problems with the 18RG in the TA22...
the fuel pump doesnt seem to pump when its going up hill...
whats the go?
that car has 1/2 tank.
thanks.
CamZHdeer? what deer? Its all about sticking with the era of the car.
P.S. Burn the front, give me immbedded fog lights (i live in the mountains, so it aint rice!!) and a big ol' hole for the FMIC [Report message to a moderator]
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