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Esteban
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Bathurst 24 hour Sat, 16 November 2002 05:44 Go to next message
doh, they just crashed one of the MR2's! how dare they treat a toyota like that Smile

so happy there is a rotary in the race, and it's a series 8 too Smile

Just waiting for the monaro to clapp out, and it will be a great event!
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Sat, 16 November 2002 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I hope that POS Monaro blows up 10 laps before the end!! what a load of hype (substitute your own word) over a cut and shut crummiedoor Twisted Evil
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Sun, 17 November 2002 02:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anyone that did go there, if you took any pics, could you put them up here?? cheers
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Sun, 17 November 2002 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Can anyone tell me the rules on what you are allowed to do to the cars, different classes etc (There is no way a Monaro is that good... Mad )

A link to the CAMS system page?? I dunno?

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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Sun, 17 November 2002 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yay, go monaro

Monaro is back..... Game over!

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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Sun, 17 November 2002 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hehe, yer go the poster

either the monaro team really really thought they'd make it to the end and made the posters up...?? i dunno

or

they got the posters made up quick smart on like the last few laps....?? i dunno

whats the go with those race posters that ya see the drivers and crowd holding up after??
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Sun, 17 November 2002 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Damn, the rules on Nations Cup must be pretty damn flexible! The only thing Monaro about that car is the shell!
7l V8 from Corvette LeMans Car
6-speed Hollinger gearbox
Ford 9" Rear Diff

Okay, so the engine will be put in a car for next year, but how to you justify the trick gearbox and replacing the IRS with live-axle. Isn't this a production car race!
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Mon, 18 November 2002 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
honestly guys,
Holden never intended the new Monaro for racing, and it was thrown in the 24 hr race to see the reaction of the fans more than anything...
I guess it just shows what they can do. Laughing

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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Mon, 18 November 2002 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Twisted Evil to holden

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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Mon, 18 November 2002 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hmm, something fishy going on with the replies....

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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Thu, 21 November 2002 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HSV_gal wrote on Mon, 18 November 2002 08:35

honestly guys,
Holden never intended the new Monaro for racing, and it was thrown in the 24 hr race to see the reaction of the fans more than anything...
I guess it just shows what they can do. Laughing


Yeah it was just thrown in after several engine configurations were tested, various inlet manifolds, cams etc were designed and tested. The complete rear suspension including sub frame was redesigned and completely fabricated by Harrop and the shell was prepared past V8 Supercar specs!!

Of course they wouldn't have bothered if the Diablo and F360 hadn't been nobbled severely to ensure there was no decent competition.

Shows how deficient the design of the 5.7 litre engine is that they went to so much expense to use the 7 litre.
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icon9.gif  Re: Bathurst 24 hour Thu, 21 November 2002 05:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
maybe so...
BUT it is not like the rest of the vehicles in the race were not modified to race standard so thay had some sort of chance...
like you would take a standard street car and put it on a track in a high profile race!

[Updated on: Thu, 21 November 2002 05:33]

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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Thu, 21 November 2002 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Monaro wasn't modified, it is a purpose built race car. Only the roof, doors and glass are production items. It is as similar to a road car as a Sports Sedan race car is to a road car.
It's very disappointing that the Diablo was nobbled so much because of it's success that the team pulled out of the race and probably Nations Cup for good. That car is closer to a road car than the Monaro is.

Now they have allowed the Monaro to race I hope they will either remove the restrictions on the Ferrari N-GT and Diablo or restrict the Monaro to the same degree as the other cars.

If this doesn't happen we'll end up with another series running Ford and Holden badges on purpose built race cars pretending to be the same type of car that you can buy at a dealer.
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Thu, 21 November 2002 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Every other car in the race was pretty much standard. That's sorta the idea of the race.
That's why Holden will be selling the 427 monaro, because you can go & buy it (one day) it's "no longer a race car". Pffft.
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Thu, 21 November 2002 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok.. to start off with..
I think I may have been misunderstood when I said the Monaro was not intended for racing...
When the New Monaro was FIRST on the production line there was not plans to ever has that vehicle on a track... Than with the feedback from buyers and fans Holden redeveloped it to a racing standard...
It seems to be what they do with most models.. hence series1 and series2 of there vehicles.... they take the feed back of the first series and make the changes to the second.
BigWorm,
I don't think we will be seeing to many of the 427's around as they are saying that they will need in excess of 50 ordered from Austraila at a RRP in excess of $200,000 each...
now where was that money tree I planted?

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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Sat, 23 November 2002 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You don't think they'll be able to sell 50?
And I thought it would be part of letting it race. If they don't bring it out then Holden sux even harder for purpose building a race car for a production car race & not even selling the obligatory 50 or so required for the car to comply as a production car.
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Sun, 24 November 2002 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
At this stage they are still testing the waters with the 427's. But say that they will not be building them as production cars unless the call is there... which won't happen till at least the end of '03.
At this stage from the info I have read they only have 30 orders from Australia and New Zealand combined so think that it won't be sucessful as a production vehicle.

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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Mon, 25 November 2002 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok - so if holden can bring out a one off ( for now ) 427 powered monaro - does that mean FORD can enter a 429 boss V8 powered falcon GT , with 2 doors , and v8 supercar running gear for next years race ??

I mean they would only need to say they are going to do 50 only for homoligation purposes and they would be sweet !

now looking at after race the monaro was over half a second faster than the porsche car - and seeing it fell into proper lemans type rules - the pairing was a bit uneven - really

a race prepped 300 KW monaro GTS with good brakes and managemebnt would have been more logical if they wanted to show the proper nature of Gt production cars

On another note i did see a te50 from ford placed within the top twn - which isnt too bad considering what it was up against and seeing the falcon was running Gt production spec gear ..


One thing i did miss was the supra ?? WHERES THE SUPRA !!


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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Mon, 25 November 2002 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stuart,
I don't know the rules and regs of the race,so I couldn't say, but if it fits in with those I really don;t see why it wouldn't be allowed in the race.
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Mon, 25 November 2002 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Porche probably would have killed the monaro as they had a race preped car themselves but it was crashed and written off during practise.

They were forced to enter a production GT3 in its place which wasn't up to some of the other cars.

Holden weren't the only ones who entered cars far from production specs....

Can anyone confirm the rules of this class of racing?
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Re: Bathurst 24 hour Tue, 26 November 2002 09:51 Go to previous message
it'd be nice to see Toms enter something next year:)
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