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GVM: Where to find?
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Thu, 21 April 2005 09:33
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I need to load my car up to it's GVM for the brake test to get it engineered. Only problem is I don't know what the GVM is. It's not listed anywhere on my rego papers (tare only) and I cant see a plate in the enginebay. Where else could it be listed?
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I supported Toymods
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November 2003
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Re: GVM: Where to find?
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Thu, 21 April 2005 10:09
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| Skip wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 17:33 |
I need to load my car up to it's GVM for the brake test to get it engineered. Only problem is I don't know what the GVM is. It's not listed anywhere on my rego papers (tare only) and I cant see a plate in the enginebay. Where else could it be listed?
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GVM = tare + load?
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Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: GVM: Where to find?
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Thu, 21 April 2005 11:30
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I'm pretty sure passenger sedans/sports cars etc. would not have a GVM rating, but I know utes and vans do, so you would think that a 4WD would have one aswell, but considering your vehicle is designed to carry passengers primarily going by your avatar picture, and not say a commercial payload like a ute or 4WD in pickup guise, the GVM might not be on your vehicle at all. I'd be giving Toyota a call dude and see what they can find out for you. Good luck. 
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: GVM: Where to find?
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Thu, 21 April 2005 12:18
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| CrUZsida wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 18:09 |
| Skip wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 17:33 |
I need to load my car up to it's GVM for the brake test to get it engineered. Only problem is I don't know what the GVM is. It's not listed anywhere on my rego papers (tare only) and I cant see a plate in the enginebay. Where else could it be listed?
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Yeah thats right Gross Vehicle Mass
I just dug through my old paper work and found the original japanse rego and deregistration papers. Says 1945kg on them, I hope the engineer will accept this.
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Melbourne
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February 2003
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Re: GVM: Where to find?
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Fri, 22 April 2005 00:09
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It's unlikely that the exact GVM of your vehicle would be listed in any records within Toyota Australia as it's a grey import.
The LJ70RV was sold new in Australia The GVM of the LJ70RV is 2210kg.
Your's I gather is the LJ71G. I can't imagine that the GVM would be much different (if any) from the LJ70RV. It would not be unreasonable to base the brake test on the GVM of the LJ70RV, if you can convince the engineering signatory that the LJ71G and LJ70RV are equivalent.
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: GVM: Where to find?
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Fri, 22 April 2005 00:36
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Skip,
Can you ask for a justification from your engineer why he want to do a brake test at GVM?
If the brakes are standard, and the car weighs about the same, then the brakes should still meet ADR requirements.
My engineer just wants to do 2 emergency stops from 110kph, and an emergency handbrake stop from 35kph I seem to recall.
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Melbourne
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February 2003
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Re: GVM: Where to find?
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Fri, 22 April 2005 01:40
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CrUZida,
Certified (ADR) brake tests should be conducted with the vehicle fully laden. In this case for the certification of a modified vehicle it is, up to a point, left to the discretion of the engineering signatory. Afterall it is the engineering signatory that indemnifies the registration authority when they approve a modification.
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: GVM: Where to find?
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Fri, 22 April 2005 01:47
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It is obviously up to the engineer signing the piece of paper yes.
But if the cars weight hasn't changed significantly, then its braking performance shouldn't have changed at all.
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: GVM: Where to find?
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Fri, 22 April 2005 04:56
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CrUZida i agree with you 100%, I cant see the point of the brake test as im not supposed to be travelling any quicker than the speed limit am I?
I took the car over the weighbridge yesterday it's original Tare with the diesel (taken from rego papers) is 1760kg. Weighbridge showed 1700kg w00t! lost some weight
This is what my letter from DPI says
The consultant's report is to address the following items:
3. Capability and suitability of the braking system to absorb the extra speed potential, a brake performace test loaded to the manufacturer's GVM to confirm compliance with VSR brake requirments.
I find the extra speed potential part a bit rich, they are implying that im going to be braking the law on regular occasions 
Anyhow Ive just ditched the engineer I was going to do all this with, he is not very coherent! Im now contacting the same guy as mitch used.
supra1978: Thanks for the info mate, where did you dig that up from? The 1945kg doesnt sound right for a car with 4 passengers a full tank and some load considering the tare is 1760kg. So id say 2210kg is more on the money.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: GVM: Where to find?
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Fri, 22 April 2005 05:26
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I think it was Clint, or maybe Ed (or even Mitch?) who explained it the best.
Basically you now have a lot more power, and if the throttle gets stuck, your brakes should be able to overcome that power.
(ie, you forget to clutch in, or switch engine off in a state of panic)
But the way I see it, the brake test is purely there so that the engineer is satisfied that your brakes are safe.
He is, of course, putting his name on your car, so he wants to make sure it isn't going to be the cause of an accident.
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