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AE86 Pro Drifters engine?
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Mon, 25 April 2005 07:23
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Hey
Was watching Disco channel last night and a dude with an AE86 won the last comp on their and I was wondering what they usually have in them to keep up with new skylines/supras etc.?
Thanks
Troy
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Mon, 25 April 2005 07:33
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usually a 16valve or 20valve 4AGE sporting quad throttles, a 10,000rpm rev limit which they need to sit on, straight thru exhaust, and a helluva lot of weight reduction. Very wild mods.
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Mon, 25 April 2005 07:36
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also, pick up Drift Battle Magazine in your newsagency. They usually have tons of Hachi Roku tech in there.
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Newcastle
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Re: AE86 Pro Drifters engine?
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Mon, 25 April 2005 07:37
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u mean the up garage ae86? i saw something on discovery channel i think, but kazama won in the kei office s15 (this was on like D1 goes to the USA).
the up garage car is equipped with a silvertop 20V + turbo
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, WA
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Re: AE86 Pro Drifters engine?
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Mon, 25 April 2005 07:42
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16v 4age with quads/carbs is the most popular
satoh runs a modded 4agze
maeda runs a turbo 20v 4age
hibino soon to be running a sr
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MELBOURNE
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December 2004
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Re: AE86 Pro Drifters engine?
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Mon, 25 April 2005 07:44
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Hey thanks all! Yeah it was D1 goes to US, so the 4age' are powerful? Stuff I thought they were just a slight upgrade hahaha!  Show show much I know! Thanking you all!
THanks
Troy
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Perth, WA
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Mon, 25 April 2005 07:47
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they spend huge cash on ther 4age's
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Newcastle
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May 2004
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Mon, 25 April 2005 07:49
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| ae95 wrote on Mon, 25 April 2005 17:47 |
they spend huge cash on ther 4age's
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so true, 4age's are a great engine, but require big $ building to make them produce big power.
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Adelaide, South Australia
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March 2005
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Re: AE86 Pro Drifters engine?
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Mon, 25 April 2005 07:55
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The Formula Atlantic 4AGE's with 16V heads produced 240hp (175kW.) That's approaching 110kW/L  for an NA motor. In my mind that's getting close to the limits of a production based motor.
Jordan
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Mon, 25 April 2005 10:05
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how much power can ya get outa them with stock internals?
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Mon, 25 April 2005 10:17
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| JoELMaN wrote on Mon, 25 April 2005 20:05 |
how much power can ya get outa them with stock internals?
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Depends on which way you power it, N/A i would say about 170-180hp, F/I 200hp with the right tuning.
Cheers
Steve
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Perth, WA
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Wollongong
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Mon, 25 April 2005 10:22
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Would they really use stock internals? I thought that'd go straight for aftermarket ones to bump up the compression (N/A cars)?
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Liverpool NSW
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March 2004
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Mon, 25 April 2005 11:12
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funny you dont seen many 4agze's in professional comps, i thougt super charges would be more suited, but im problably wrong
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Adelaide
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Re: AE86 Pro Drifters engine?
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Mon, 25 April 2005 11:51
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I was at 119rwhp with a stock bottom end. Only replaced the head because one of the old valves was cracked. Put in a 0.8mm TRD HG then too. Makes soooo much difference 
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Re: AE86 Pro Drifters engine?
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Thu, 28 April 2005 09:11
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| JFAllen wrote on Mon, 25 April 2005 17:55 |
The Formula Atlantic 4AGE's with 16V heads produced 240hp (175kW.) That's approaching 110kW/L for an NA motor. In my mind that's getting close to the limits of a production based motor.
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hehee, looooove formula atlantics,,,awesome!!!, the actual retail 20v look deadly  still good that you can build your own though (formula atlantic parts lists are everywhere).,ill fish up a pic of a 20v.
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Ipswich
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Thu, 28 April 2005 09:21
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thats a hasselgren built 4age, they're one of the official builders for the FA series,
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Rockhampton QLD
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July 2004
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Thu, 28 April 2005 09:50
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how much? aircon?
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Thu, 28 April 2005 09:56
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yeah, ones like these usually start from about 15grand upwards like i sed, its good that its possible to build your own lol, cept the dry sump setup would be a tricky job
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Ipswich
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Thu, 28 April 2005 11:48
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it isn't?, it doesn't look like one (thats for sure lol), but im pretty sure its a Formula Atlantic 20 valve, each company makes its own style cam covers and intakes and stuff, it might be a 16v, but most of the top level Group-A shit uses 20v so im just guessing
also, i finally found a site i found a year back that actually sells them, they're $14,500 from toysport i was surprised how many different race engines they sold
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Ipswich
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February 2005
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Fri, 29 April 2005 06:44
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Hmm?, thats wierd, i think there must be heaps of mixed opinions on it, cause i found one site that said that 16valves were run in group A and both 20valves and 16s were run in formula atlantic,but everyone knows 20valves are run in group a aswell!, 
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Fri, 29 April 2005 08:05
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| brodiepearce wrote on Thu, 28 April 2005 19:21 |
Formula Atlantic Hasselgren Engine
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Good to see that people are using my site without referencing it. Or even a thanks
As for using 20vs in GrpA and FA, they dont. They did for about a year, but the port design and squish areas are better on the 16v so they went back. To put it bluntly the 16v craps all over the 20v in high horsepower applications. Hasselgren engines are around the $12-15k mark depending on whether you buy several engines for a season etc.
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Ipswich
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Re: AE86 Pro Drifters engine?
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Sat, 30 April 2005 00:33
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| ae95 wrote on Mon, 25 April 2005 17:42 |
16v 4age with quads/carbs is the most popular
satoh runs a modded 4agze
maeda runs a turbo 20v 4age
hibino soon to be running a sr
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maeda`s car has a 20v turbo with angry cams,(i know ive heard it in real life  ) NOS and is putting out 400ps. The car is also stripped of all excess weight including the indicators.
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Re: AE86 Pro Drifters engine?
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Sat, 30 April 2005 01:45
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| brodiepearce wrote on Sat, 30 April 2005 10:18 |
what?,,,i got the pic off dysfunctional imagery if thats what your talking about
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Tends to be, look at all my threads and see where all my images are hosted from.
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