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I Supported Toymods
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Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Wed, 27 April 2005 05:08
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Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Batemans Bay, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Wed, 27 April 2005 05:16
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interested to know this also.
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Wed, 27 April 2005 05:29
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Dare I say the blindingly obvious......Ask an engineer ?????!!!!! 
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I Supported Toymods
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Wed, 27 April 2005 05:42
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I doubt it.
Changing the material that such a major part of a car is made from will most definately alter what would occur in an accident.
I would suspect that if involved in a front on accident carbon fiber would break into shards (most likely rather sharp) rather than just bending and crumpling like metal would.
Imagine a nice big shard of carbon fiber coming through the windscreen... Its not a pretty thought.
Personally I would stay away from carbon fiber panels... more for my personal safety rather than concerns over the legalities of the stuff.
If you want to lighten the car there are heaps of other things you can do whilst keeping the car safe.
-Remove the sound deadening material and carpets.
-Remove the door trims and replace with lighter material (like those real estate "for sale" signs etc.)
-Remove the under bonnet insulation.
-Remove un-necessary seating
-Remove roof lining.
-Remove unnecessary aircon stuff (compressor, receiver/dryer, condensor etc.)
-Remove heater box
-Drive around with an almost empty fuel tank.
-Replace the panels with lighter alloy panels
-Swap your rims for something lighter
-Remove that un-necessary ABS and associated control equipment
-Remove the glass from the doors and put up webbing
I'm not saying you should do any or all of the above... just thinking of weight reduction options.
Many of the things I mentioned may make the vehicle non compliant with ADR's... but at least as far as I'm concerned they are safe.
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Batemans Bay, NSW
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Wed, 27 April 2005 05:44
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was pretty sure that they were illegal, just intrested to know the definate answer, although Im not getting a carbon bonnet.
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Adelaide, South Australia
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March 2005
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Wed, 27 April 2005 06:22
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| Toobs wrote on Wed, 27 April 2005 15:12 |
-Remove the glass from the doors and put up webbing
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Go NASCAR style. a more streeable alternative would be perspecs.
Jordan
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Wed, 27 April 2005 09:17
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yup, not gonna work on any car that needs to pass crash tests, and even then the splintering/killing peds thing doesn't help.
why not just get carbon fibre look 'contact' 
or you could just paint it black.. or save the carbon bonnet for the track.
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Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Wed, 27 April 2005 10:13
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id imagine the only way to get it passed would involve testing to destruction. and even then i doubt it would pass for the above mentioned splintering.
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Wed, 27 April 2005 10:22
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from what i understand, it affects the car's crumple zone, safety first!
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I Supported Toymods
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Wollongong
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 08:08
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ok funny that because at the motor show last year alfa romeo released a carbon fibre bodied car for production
I might have to make sum fone calls.
I just thought sum one here has had a c/f bonnet engineered
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 08:13
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not funny... car manufacturer tests car to comply with ADR's when wearing carbon fibre bonnet.
a bit different to putting one on old car.. but just call the RTA about whether it can be legal or not, then find an engineer to certify it.
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Ipswich
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February 2005
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Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 08:57
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fibre glass would be the same story. it should be ok if it was proven to adhere to appropriate crash saftey standards... however i would imagine it would involve testing to destruction, this is how a manufacturer like alfa would be passing it. as *their* bonnet has been proven to be safe, no doubt thorugh destructive testing...
now i doubt you want to have your sprinter crashed just to test if the bonnet is safe... on the plus side *if* it passed on that data you should be able to get other sprinters with the same carbon bonnet passed without destructive testing
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 08:58
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i got a friend with a UC torana with a fibreglass bonnet engineered
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 09:02
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| nightdevil wrote on Thu, 28 April 2005 18:08 |
ok funny that because at the motor show last year alfa romeo released a carbon fibre bodied car for production
I might have to make sum fone calls.
I just thought sum one here has had a c/f bonnet engineered
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Is that the Brera?
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I Supported Toymods
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Wollongong
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 10:22
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Anyone want to donate their hachi and a cf bonnet???
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 10:25
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I've got an insider who works in the RTA... Stay tuned when I found out how legal CF bonnets are tomorrow...
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 11:38
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better off doing it with reinforced alloy sheet probably, CF is great for high stress areas but for a large typically low stress area i would think not, the hinges could probably be done reasonably cheap in aluminium as well all as one unit to make things even lighter (JZA80 uses aluminium bonnet and guards AFIK)
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 13:22
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touch wood but ive never been asked what my bonnet is made from
even by defect cops
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I Supported Toymods
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Wollongong
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 13:47
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Hey Garth are your hinges under ur bonnet made out of steel or fibreglass??
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Can Carbon Fibre bonnets get engineered??
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Thu, 28 April 2005 14:24
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OEM steel items
std latch+catch aswell
with cusco pins (going on this week)
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