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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Location:
Melbourne
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Elwood, Melbourne
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May 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Wed, 15 June 2005 12:06
 
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you say "may need aftermarket ecu"- were you running one? if so what sort please?
I guess a standard ecu would struggle to get adequate sensor readings to run them? 
also, what sort of power band did you have? were they torquey or realy peaky? I have read that using an exh. profile a step or so down from the inlet gives a wide band of "useable" torque. so Im guessing that being the opposite, these are possibly quite a narrow band?
cheers heaps 
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Thu, 16 June 2005 01:50
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hi there,
I was running an Autronic SMC with these cams
it's not the sensor, it's that u need to adjust the ignition timing on the computer to make these cams idle and runs perfect.
I was going to upload a dyno graph for these cams but I forgot to bring it with me today...i will try to post it tmr. power band is from around 4500-8000rpm
cheers
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Location:
Elwood, Melbourne
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May 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Thu, 16 June 2005 07:31
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sweet, cheers dude.
so they wont work at all without aftermarket ecu?- I may have to push forward my plans to buy one then 
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Location:
Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Thu, 16 June 2005 11:00
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Are you any more negotiable on price? - i see you've already dropped it but thought it's worth asking. As just out of my price range at the moment.
Cheers
Joel
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Fri, 24 June 2005 05:29
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| AE86 Levin Melbourne wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 11:20 |
hi there,
it's not the sensor, it's that u need to adjust the ignition timing on the computer to make these cams idle and runs perfect.
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I understand that you have to run an afetrmarket computer cause you can't get a big enough manifold vaccum reading for them to work. Anything bigger then about 264 degrees and you'll start having problems.
So I guess your right TRD-GTI, but I also suspect running these with stock ignition settings would not be good...
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Location:
Central Coast
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January 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Sat, 25 June 2005 01:24
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I have personally installed some camshafts successfully into a 4AGZE which had a standard ECU AFM version. The Cams were 288degree 7.5mm lift and the only problem we had was the spark was weaker because the faster higher intake of air was blowing out the spark of the plugs. (fix) 0.65 plug gap instead of 0.8.
The only problem people have with cams is between their ears. Why would a 264 cam be the limit and a 272 or 288 be bad.
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Location:
Wollongong, NSW
Registered:
April 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Sat, 25 June 2005 02:02
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GZE AFM computer is somewhat different to the GE MAP computer....for one, Air Flow Meters ars more tolerant to low manifold vaccumm (in fact they don't care) than MAP Sensors.
Question, why are these cams one step bigger on the Exhaust than the Inlet? Most of the big tuners (TODA, TRD, HKS, etc.) generally recommend going the other way? Did you choose this cam setup yourself or did your engine builder? What was the idle like?
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Location:
Elwood, Melbourne
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May 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Sun, 26 June 2005 15:19
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Question, why are these cams one step bigger on the Exhaust than the Inlet? Most of the big tuners (TODA, TRD, HKS, etc.) generally recommend going the other way?
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that was the othr point i was wondering about...
although I believe it can be altered to suit application. one way gives a narrower powerband the other alot wider. they also perform better at different scales of the rpm range
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Mon, 27 June 2005 13:03
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I'm still new to 4A-GE's but 18R-G's used to get built with cams like this (I was so close to buying very similar cams for an 18R-G)
I have no idea of the reason - I've never really thought about it...
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I Supported Toymods
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south Melbourne/KL
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Mon, 27 June 2005 15:23
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| Lachie wrote on Fri, 24 June 2005 15:29 |
| AE86 Levin Melbourne wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 11:20 |
hi there,
it's not the sensor, it's that u need to adjust the ignition timing on the computer to make these cams idle and runs perfect.
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I understand that you have to run an afetrmarket computer cause you can't get a big enough manifold vaccum reading for them to work. Anything bigger then about 264 degrees and you'll start having problems.
So I guess your right TRD-GTI, but I also suspect running these with stock ignition settings would not be good...
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i run 267 degree cams and dont have vacuum problem. idles perfectly with adjustable cam gears. however, somehow the stock ecu runs really rich at idle. have S-AFC to sort that out
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Tue, 28 June 2005 06:04
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Are u running a MAP or AFM sensor? AFM will fair better then MAP sensed engines with bigger cams. 267 is only a little bigger then what the stock computers with MAP will start running into problems.
I think they'll run, just not too well.
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I Supported Toymods
Location:
south Melbourne/KL
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Tue, 28 June 2005 07:08
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| Lachie wrote on Tue, 28 June 2005 16:04 |
Are u running a MAP or AFM sensor? AFM will fair better then MAP sensed engines with bigger cams. 267 is only a little bigger then what the stock computers with MAP will start running into problems.
I think they'll run, just not too well.
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mine's MAP. runs perfectly now
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Location:
Wollongong, NSW
Registered:
April 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Tue, 28 June 2005 08:14
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Given you had to run a S-AFC and Cam Gears on it to get the idle right it's hardly what you call plug and play for the factory ECU....
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Location:
Brisbane
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October 2003
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Thu, 28 July 2005 09:37
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presuming these have sold?
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Fri, 29 July 2005 01:05
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not yet..I still have them
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Location:
Brisbane
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February 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Fri, 29 July 2005 01:29
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I take it these cams would not go into the 20v would they?
Would they fit in any 16v 4age or 4agze?
Where did you buy them from?
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Location:
Perth WA
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Mon, 01 August 2005 13:28
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pm sent
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Location:
campbelltown
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April 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Tue, 02 August 2005 01:54
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hi, very interested in these cams have you any idea what it would cost for shipping to sydney ???????
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Location:
sidoonie
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January 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age
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Fri, 05 August 2005 03:23
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are they sold yet?!?! price?!?!
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age (dyno graph uploaded)
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Tue, 30 August 2005 07:45
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dodgiest dyno graph eva
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Location:
Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age (dyno graph uploaded)
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Tue, 30 August 2005 08:06
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Look at the kick of power at 5500rpm... This would kick damn hard in a 4age with some small tuning to get the idle right, if these were 3sge cams i would have snapped em up in a second!
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age (dyno graph uploaded)
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Tue, 30 August 2005 08:30
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Draven can you please tell me why this would be the dodgiest dyno graph? do you have a "proper" dyno graph to show?
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Location:
Adelaide
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June 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age (dyno graph uploaded)
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Tue, 30 August 2005 10:54
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How long have you had these cams in you car? IT says on the dyno that its date 14-4-03. So I am guessing that these cams are over 2 years old.
How worn are these cams?
As I am very interested, I just need the peace of mind when buying such items.
I also sent you a pm
thanks
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Location:
Perth WA
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age (dyno graph uploaded)
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Mon, 03 October 2005 16:56
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still for sale?
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Location:
Central Coast
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age (dyno graph uploaded)
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Mon, 03 October 2005 21:07
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Ive seen worse dyno graphs but its pretty bad. (no offense) Who eva buys these cams will get good power. It just looks like someone has put too much advance on the top end or something cause of the wavey power up top. also the resounant at around 5000RPM THIS IS NORMAL! but can be fixed quite easily. Im hoping that wasnt your final run on the dyno or your engine tuner didnt know what he was doing.
BTW most big companies TODA HKS etc recommand miss matched cams because the average Joe who buys them (and also far too many tuners) dont know how to tune them properly so miss matched cams would be a bit better then same cams for both In and EX. also its 'MENT' to be better for turbos
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Location:
Darwin, NT
Registered:
October 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age (dyno graph uploaded)
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Tue, 04 October 2005 00:05
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Are these cams still for sale, and if so, how much?
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Location:
Sydney,Hurstville
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age (dyno graph uploaded)
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Tue, 04 October 2005 11:03
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you have a pm.
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Location:
newcastle
Registered:
July 2005
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Re: 300/288 cams for 4age (dyno graph uploaded)
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Fri, 07 October 2005 21:48
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hey man, the cams still there?? let me know if you will take $350 for them and ill buy them today.ph. 0408224270 matt.
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