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goonman86
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2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sat, 30 April 2005 12:19 Go to next message
now i rebilt my 2tgue with the crank from a 3tgte and new 1mm over sized pistons and got them fly cut. got the head rebilt now i put it all together and i think number 3 piston is hitting the ex vavle. now what could of done this if they where all fly cut the same depth? im yet to pull the head off and have a look but i think its only just tapping the top of the piston. it still runs well but just rattly. still got stock cams so thats not a problem. should i get out the shot gun and take out the nee caps off the guy that did the pistons? or is it not his falt. any info would be great
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sat, 30 April 2005 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
did you dummy assemble using plasticine to see what the valve to piston clearance was?
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sat, 30 April 2005 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yep but only one piston that was number 1 with 3mm of blue tac in the valve cut and it dident tought the blue tac. should i have done all 4 pistons?
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sat, 30 April 2005 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
always helps to be sure.... unless you are sure that every valve seat is the same height etc..

can you pull otu plugs and inspect pistons for contact thru the holes?

valve contact is a serious prob tho.. if you are even 60% sure thats what it is, i'd be pulling the head off to check Sad

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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sat, 30 April 2005 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grab the shotty and blow his knee caps out!!! then say phuck the world afta that

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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sat, 30 April 2005 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Are you sure its not the timing chain making the rattling noise ?
Have you checked the clearance between the buckets and the cams ?

Otherwise it might even be a good idea to pull the head off and have a good look see.
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sat, 30 April 2005 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LAA.80E wrote on Sat, 30 April 2005 23:15

grab the shotty and blow his knee caps out!!! then say phuck the world afta that

Congratulations - Consider yourself placed on probation. If a moderator has any reason to warn you again you will be banned from the forums.
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sat, 30 April 2005 23:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah the shims where done bye a work shop so all that is spot on. the cam cain is nice and tight. the loud clatter is coming from there rear of the head ex port side so it sounds like a vavle just cliping the piston. i might pull the plug out and have a good look but it will be hard to see in there coz the hole is so deap.
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sun, 01 May 2005 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok head is off and found the problem. ex vavles was hitting the side of the fly cut. by only about half a mm maybe less hope it hasent bent my valves. so the cunts that did the fly cuting did not do it right. so whould should i do? get them to pay for whats happend? like new vavles and head gasket
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sun, 01 May 2005 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
absolutly take it to them but just stay calm people dont seem to willing to help if you get angry and rant and rave just take all the parts to him show him the prob and ask him what he suggested went wrong see what he said went wrong if he blames angthing on you then start getting angry and give the mvira a call state your case and they should fix him up nicely.... will be good to hear what happens with this keep us posted.......
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sun, 01 May 2005 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boog wrote on Sun, 01 May 2005 10:01

absolutly take it to them but just stay calm people dont seem to willing to help if you get angry and rant and rave just take all the parts to him show him the prob and ask him what he suggested went wrong see what he said went wrong if he blames angthing on you then start getting angry and give the mvira a call state your case and they should fix him up nicely.... will be good to hear what happens with this keep us posted.......



what? the only way shit GETS done is by ranting and raving. just walk in, be "firm but fair" and blame him for fucking it up...

its his fault for not doing it properly... although, if he did make a mistake first hand, be a little more forgiving, but if he starts blaming you, pull out said *hypothetical* shottie.

in order for me not to get placed on probation, this means that you pull out all the stops, show him the facts and basically show him why its his fault Smile

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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sun, 01 May 2005 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
And then you see a solicitor, who if they know their stuff will get in touch with the people that handle this side of things.
Mvira (Is that them ?) will ask you some questions tear the motor down do some nerdie science stuff and hand the motor back to your mechanic with a bill
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sun, 01 May 2005 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hate to say it but you may not get anywhere, because you should have checked all your piston to valve clearances before starting it up, did you wind it over by have before starting it and feel any binding or any noises?

good luck with it anyway, just dont hold your breath

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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sun, 01 May 2005 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You can try to get them to take it on - be calm and firm in order to get the best result (and don't be distracted from the facts with any kind bitching).

Ultimately YOU are the ENGINE BUILDER and everything should be checked while BUILDING THE ENGINE.

Keep it simple and straight forward and you will probably be pleasantly surprised with the outcome.
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sun, 01 May 2005 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
goonman86 wrote on Sat, 30 April 2005 22:19

now i rebilt my 2tgue with the crank from a 3tgte and new 1mm over sized pistons and got them fly cut. got the head rebilt now i put it all together and i think number 3 piston is hitting the ex vavle. now what could of done this if they where all fly cut the same depth? im yet to pull the head off and have a look but i think its only just tapping the top of the piston. it still runs well but just rattly. still got stock cams so thats not a problem. should i get out the shot gun and take out the nee caps off the guy that did the pistons? or is it not his falt. any info would be great


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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Sun, 01 May 2005 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i did do a dummy fit of the piston but only number 1 and every thing was fine ill show you the pistons pic and you will see why. i think he was about 1mm out when he cut them ill put pics up soon
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Tue, 03 May 2005 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey sorry to hear all this, what workshop did this all happen at so i know not to go there.
cheers, Lloyd
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Tue, 03 May 2005 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mvria is the motor vehicle repair industry of austrlia yeah they are the layers /nerds / scientists that handle this shit and sorry for my calm look towards things but as a repairer myself i've had a case put against me and the calmer you stay the better the outcome is trust me...... up to you tho im no1 to say.....
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Re: 2tg piston hits valve after hibread makeover Wed, 04 May 2005 08:30 Go to previous message
nar every thing is fixd up now. got the head looked at and no valves are bent so ill do the pistons tonight and than get it running
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